Gold Winger

"http://www.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=114341#id_114518" Sctlder said, " If they intend to reform a unit in the future, the CO can retain the assets "in trust" for that future unit. If they have no such intention, the assets revert to the Council for use as they see fit. That's the terms of the Charter agreement that they signed when your unit was formed." Rules and Regulations, Article XI, Section 1, Local Council and Unit Finance Clause 2, Disposition of Unit Funds Upon Termination of Local Council or Unit (b) Unit Obligations. In the event of the dissolution of a unit or the revocation or lapse of its charter, the unit committee shall apply unit funds and property to the payment of unit obligations and shall turn over the surplus, if any, to the local council, if there is one, or if there is no local council, dispose of the same in accordance with the direction of the Executive Board of the Boy Scouts of America. In the case of a chartered organization, any funds or equipment which may have been secured as property of the unit shall be held in trust by the chartering organizaiton or the chartered local council, as may be agreed upon, pending reorganization of the unit or for the promotion of the program of the Boy Scouts of America. As I said, it goes to council unless the CO intends to start up a new unit and Council agrees to let them hang onto it.

"A Scout who practices his excercises every Wednesday and Saturday does so "regularly" do they not?" Hey, that means that if I exercise on the first Monday of every month that I can tell my doctor that I exercise regularly. Even better, if I exercise every January 1st, I've done regular exercise.

"No interpretation necessary. If a unit folds, all unit gear & funds revert to the CO. The CO can do what they want with it then." I don't think so. That's what the DE said when my old pack folded. There's something in the charter agreement about funds raised and equipment bought in the name of Scouting reverting to Council. Of course there is a chance that the DE was wrong. I'm sure that Bob White has a definitive answer.

" If the unit is owned by the CO all assets of the unit are property of the CO then any funds being raised by the unit for it's own use are in actuality being raised for the CO which under item 7 of the money earning application is considered a third party. " I think that this is open to interpretation. If a unit folds, the unit's assets do not revert to the CO, if the CO has no plans to start a new unit in short order, the assets go to council.

" If the unit is owned by the CO all assets of the unit are property of the CO then any funds being raised by the unit for it's own use are in actuality being raised for the CO which under item 7 of the money earning application is considered a third party. " I think that this is open to interpretation. If a unit folds, the unit's assets do not revert to the CO, if the CO has no plans to start a new unit in short order, the assets go to council.

I got mine on ebay. You could also buy a WOSM belt and buckle from WOSM's web site. Not really regulation but the Uniform Police probably won't notice. http://www.worldscoutshop.org/sommaire.asp?langue=2&prcid=201&menuprcid=0%2C7696%2C201&prcidm=7696&sid=01EPWAPQAYL43IRDFO1BCT8A

"I'm just dying to know what the "right" answer is to each of these items." If you don't know, I can't tell you.

"AND I HATE THE SEWN IN WEB BELT! I'm going to dig out my seam ripper and unstitch that worthless thing and remove it." It's not "sewn in," it is just held in place by the stiches that hold the tag on. No need for a seam ripper, just pluck at it and the entire length of thread will come undone.

You are supposed to have knowledge of the subject either from a professional interest or as a hobby, you need to do Youth Protection and then register with your council as an MB counselor. There is Merit Badge Counselor training but I don't know it is universally offered.

Dang! You could use those boots as an emergency shelter for a smaller scout.

I'm still wondering "why?".

"1) Federal Employee ID number for an IRS 501©(3) organization - used for obtaining grants and the like" Not to mention the all important annual paperwork for tax evasion.

My Asolo boots weigh less than 4 lbs lbs for the pair and are light enough that I can do an assembl whilst wearing them.

My son's troop does the car parking thing for community events. However, they aren't paid to do it. The fire department collects the money and DONATES 50% of the take to the troop.

Pull-up are one of those exercises that you have to practice daily to see any improvement. I remember the Presidents Physical Fitness test from back in grade school. A week before the test, the announcement would be made "We're gonna practice for the PPFT. Even though we were active, no one practiced sit ups or pull ups throughout the year and consequently only one boy ever passed the test. As others have said, there are parks. I built a pull-up bar for my son. I got a three foot length of black iron gas pipe, a couple elbows, a couple 6" nipples (can I say "nipples"), and two threaded plates to bolt to the wall. Screw the elbows onto the pipe, attach the nipples, thread the plates onto the open end of the nipples and then attache to the wall with lag screws. It held me.

My first question is "Why?" When my son crossed over, I told the pack committee that I'd be willing to stick around and continue doing my committee job if they needed me. They didn't, so I took off. I did go to the Pinewood Derby just to see old friends and make sure that they were "doing it right" :-) If asked, I would have been willing to be the second leader on a hike or something like that but I would have felt strange showing up at every event when I had no function there. What are does this fellow want to do? Does he want to support a den? Be another ACM? Why would he drag his family along? His son is now a Boy Scout, are there siblings in the pack? If he's registered with a troop, there's no need for a second registration unless you want him to take on a committee role or be an ACM. Fees? Tell him up front that since his son's not selling popcorn that he'll be expected to cover his expenses. That's my tuppence.

I'm wondering why you'd take new boots.

Probably a billion dollars :-) Since the Chinese shirts aren't any less expensive than the 'Merican made ones, I'd guess that the shirt would probably be around $35 as well. $2 for new loops. $100 for new subdued patches. If the shirts are a decent field shirt that can be worn camping and mucking about in the woods, it will be a good thing. If they are that soft, snaggy nylon that will get destroyed the first time that it sees a branch, that won't be a good thing. I'll try to reserve judgement until I see one.

Supposedly there is a new uniform coming down the pipe. A plastic shirt that is supposed to be good in the field along with different colored shoulder loops and subdued patches.

"I do love her very deeply, but I'm not sure I could take her complaining about my driving for that long of a trip!!" She who no longer needs to obeyed travels with a dog which gets carsick so the dog gets sedated. Maybe you could get some pills for your wife.

For the first time in a decade I won't be doing anything with Scouting during the summer. No day camp, no summer camp, no Philmont. I'm bummed. :-(

I haven't had time to dig through all of my materials but . . . I remember in committee training we were told that it is best if each person wears one hat. Meaning you don't have CC/Treas or ASM/Secretary because each job takes enough time on its own. I would extend that to the youth. If you have two time consuming jobs, you cannot give your full attention to either. It may not be prohibited but I wouldn't encourage it.

"There we go again with the sports analogies! Shirts must be tucked in. It's a rule! . . . And uniforms in sports are required. " So? The point is that there are right ways and wrong ways to do things and it is our job to teach our children the difference. There is a right way to eat in polite company which isn't taught much anymore. There is a right way to behave in church. There is a right way to dress for a funeral. There is a right way to wear a uniform, any uniform be it Army, Navy, baseball, basketball, or BSA. (This message has been edited by Gold Winger)

Usually. There's usually a Tax Exempt certificate or wallet card that your CO can give you a copy of. That is if they understand that you are part of their organization. We had to have a long chat with our CO to get a copy of their certificate.

Depends on the shoes and the boots and how well they fit. All through college I wore late 70s vintage GI combat boots. They were on my feet a good 12 hours a day and I probably walked betwee five and ten miles a day. Loved those boots. I wear boots everday, all day because I'm on my feet for much of the day. I think that comfort really depends on fit along with construction and design.