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  1. "FirstPusk, you can't repeatedly question someone's understanding of a topic because they disagree with you and then feign emotions because they challenge you to tests of your own understanding on that topic. What denomination are you a lay minister in that advocates evolution?" I have asked one question which you have never answered. Instead, you want to settle it by some kind of trial by intelligence test. I am not concerned about a who is smarter argument. In order to move on, I granted you your IQ title. Most denominations don't ask their ministers to adhere to a statement o
  2. According to the G2SS, the BSA established minimum standards for providing medical info prior to participation in an activity. I think the Class 3 form would apply for you. I would also review the requirements for Trek Safely which mentions the Class 3 form. This will spell out other requirements for leadership, training and safety. Here is the text from an online with changes through April 25, 2002. "Class 3: Includes any event involving strenuous activity such as backpacking, high altitude, extreme weather conditions, cold water, exposure, fatigue, athletic competition, adventure c
  3. DeMann, That's what happens when you start a thread and go away for a couple of days...I don't want to catch you napping again.
  4. Hey Zorn, You may not agree with ScoutParent and Rooster7, but you don't need to call them names. The 12th point of the law calls for you to respect their beliefs not ridicule them.
  5. ScoutParent, The first thing to note about your last post is that there is no positive evidence for your position. Instead, your position is based on trying to negate evolution. And your list does a poor job of even that. "The cambrian explosion," Here it is clear you read too much Wells and Johnson. Try reading real scientists to get the true flavor of the controversy. Yes there is argument among scientists here, but not over evolution occurs because the fossil discoveries detailed in these books strongly support evolution. Instead the issue is how it works. Try these two bo
  6. Rooster7, I never doubted you were a compassionate guy. I just felt your response to me was a bit on the knee jerk side and your support of Zorn's remark was uncritical to say the least. I know you don't agree with me and that's okay. I am sure that you aren't the first guy to give up on a kid. You are right that the drowning remark came later. However, it was not different in character simply more disgustingly graphic. I think of it along the lines of checking for a beam in my eye before I decide a kid is not worth my time. Sorry if I upset you, now let me work on this 2x4...
  7. 'So, having said the aforementioned, kindly remove your foot from my butt. I don't find it necessary, nor do I agree that it is an "act of Christian love".' Excuse me Rooster, if there is a foot still there it is not mine. I have a strict rule to apply them quickly with precision. It is always the same. You may not agree now, but some day you will thank me.
  8. Careful Zorn, You never know what kind of test she will demand that you take. ScoutParent, Still waiting for that viable scientific theory that is an alternative to evolution. When you get done reading Genesis 1 and 2 could you get right on that?
  9. "Obviously, I don't agree with everything Zorn has to say. The fact that I may have defended a point made by Zorn, doesn't mean I think he is the model Scoutmaster. If you want to keep your integrity, please try to keep things in perspective." I didn't think you agreed with him. I simply felt it was more than a bit inconsistent that you defend an egregious statement on his part and turn around to pick nits with me. I understand that you have profound political, philosophical and theological differences with me. I accept those and believe that you really don't look for the opportuni
  10. "The world would be better off if certain children were drowned at birth." Zorn So Rooster, you can call me naive and liberal anytime you want. You can keep defending Zorn, too. Seems to be the model scoutmaster. Let me guess...Safe Swim Defense?
  11. Lightcrow, You are in a difficult situation. I was going to ask if this guy was trained. He is and done Wood Badge, to boot. You need to be careful not being seen as the guy trying to push him out. There are problems in this troop, but will fighting among the leaders help. Troops often have a tough time after a SM transition. Being a scoutmaster can be a very daunting job. Look for opportunities for the boys to take charge and the troop will move in the right direction. One way to do it is to emphasize the patrol method. We ask that each patrol put on one outing a year. They
  12. "The fact is that some kids aren't worth the effort. Our society thinks that children are precious but they really aren't. There are children that cannot be saved and will never become a useful member of society." Sorry, all kids are worth the effort. Can you or I reach all kids? No, but that doesn't mean someone else can't. I've worked with too many kids that other adults have given up on a kid that is a great kid. There are some that will not be saved, but none that can not be saved.
  13. acco40, I grew up with 55746 in my return address and I couldn't agree more...
  14. "See the Advancement Committee Policies and Procedures manual pages 24 and 33. " "Bob" must have every manual memorized. When you train, you actually often can give chapter and verse. This is especially true for questions that are frequently asked at training. This is one that is always asked at both leader specific training and committee training. It can be a lot of fun to watch the eyes roll when you can do that...
  15. I realize that finances can be a problem for a small troop. Believe me, I have been there. However, while these boys were scouts they earned the awards and paid their dues at the time they earned their awards. Give them their due. It is not becoming of any unit to withhold earned awards. We should be looking for opportunities to celebrate acheivement not cut costs and push boys out of scouting forever. I have talked to adults who remember their troop doing things like that to them thirty years ago and they are still angry about it. We are in it for the boys.
  16. "'Are these a part of the proscribed JLT program?' Hey OGE, yet another example. proscribe to denounce or condem, to prohibit or forbid." Having served on my council's JLTC staff and aftter answering some angry questions from an scout leader or two, are you absolutely certain that wasn't the word he meant? ;^)
  17. Youngblood, How many scouts in your troop?
  18. slontwovvy, I go back to my example of our eagle who also was captain of the football team. If I used the 50/75 % guideline used by that troop, we wouldn't even talk with him. As it was, I had a guy I could point to when younger scouts said they didn't have time for scouting. He would sit down and talk with them about the things you get from scouting that are not in athletics. If attendance is considered a problem, it is time for the SM to have a conference with the scout. They should come to a mutual agreement on the level of participation. This is what happened in the case of
  19. maddoro, I am sorry to hear the troop was in such turmoil. I can understand why you are upset. The SM's remarks show a lack of grace. Is this guy trained? I have to agree with k9gold-scout. If you can find a way to have your boy meet all the requirements with the new troop, go for it. A point on the letters, you or your son should not have possession of them. They are confidential. Have the advancement chair of the current troop ask for any letters that the SM of the old troop might possess. When boys leave a troop to go to another, it can be a sore spot for a sco
  20. "So to determine "active in the troop" you'd rather use some hand waving that is completely subjective?" We had an eagle the year before last that was captain of the local football team. As a senior, a lot of demands were made on his time. We talked with him and used him when he was able to help. The community got a beautiful bridge at the local park (his eagle project), we got a mature influence on the younger boys and he earned the eagle. We knew that with football and other extra-curricular commitments we would not see him much of the time. But when he was there, he was an e
  21. ScoutParent, Thanks, I've read that a few times before. But tell me where is your scientific support for that and is that the correct creation story or is it the one in Genesis chapter 2? It was so kind that you posted it twice. A guy like me might need to read it more than once.
  22. "I didn't expect you to accept the challenge. Then there would be data to substantiate both of our actual understandings of the subjects of evolution and intelligent design; not to mention our abilities to understand." Simply sophmoric and completely off topic. If you want to flash a Mensa card that's okay with me. That is even worse than saying I win the argument because I have these three college degrees. I subscribe to Natural History and read the whole special section. You should, too. It made it clear that Intelligent Design was not science. As I recall the title was "Intel
  23. 'Firstpusk, Evolutionary theory deals with creation outside of the scope of God, based on that alone it is an engine of evil." No, evolution is a science and as such can be used for good or ill. In and of itself, it can no be good or evil. It is what we do with the science. If I as a scout leader tell a scout, "Evolution is true, God does not exist." In my faith tradition I have committed a grevious sin, violated the Scout Law and abused the science. Evolution does not speak to the existence of God, that is a matter of faith. I have lied to a young person because the science do
  24. "FirstPusk: Here's my challenge to you:" ScoutParent, Not interested. I asked for something from you first. Provide me with a viable scientific theory that is an alternative to evolution. We talked about this first eleven days ago. Still no direct answer only slurs and mean-spirited misrepresentation. Is it possible for you to become more crass? I will grant you must have IQ points to spare. I suggest you put those little grey cells to work on the links and references Merlyn and me provided you, instead of the creationist claptrap. Venturer2002, If you ar
  25. Rooster7, Let's break this down into smaller chunks. "Firstpusk, The compliment (Firstpuck) was accidentally. Nor was any malice intended. Yet, I may have contempt for some of your ideas." I never thought malice was intended. Kinda thought it was funny. I know some of what I write annoys you, sorry that is not the intention. "As for your statement to ScoutParent - "You have been unable to provide an alternative." What makes you think evolution is so viable? Popularity and truth are not one in the same." I don't think that science is a popularity contest. Ideas ar
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