Gutterbird 10 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 We have both a Venture Crew and a Boy Scout Troop, we have a new scout wanting to join either unit, he is 16 years old and will not make Eagle if he chooses to go into the Boy Scout side of the house. So, what do you think, join Boy Scouts or Venturing? What is everybody's thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
BS-87 30 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 If he's not motivated by advancement, do Venturing. Link to post Share on other sites
Basementdweller 608 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 what does he want to do????? What is his interest? Are the troop and crew Truly separate organizations? Our crew and troop are separate, crew is coed and is all about social and high adventure. Link to post Share on other sites
KC9DDI 11 Posted August 1, 2011 Share Posted August 1, 2011 I guess I don't understand what more there is to this than what the boy wants to do? Explain the unique program and expectations of both the troop and the crew, and let him decide between the troop, the crew, or both. Link to post Share on other sites
Gutterbird 10 Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 I did talk with the boy and his mother, I did tell them about both units and what each one has to offer. the mother was asking me for my recomendation, it is a tough call, it would be truly up to the boy as to what he wanted to do. I just wanted to see what others thought. Link to post Share on other sites
Alabama Scouter 14 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Joining at 16, he won't make Eagle, anyway. (well, unlikly, anyway. 18 months is a footrace, and that's with an aggressive troop program to get him there). Crew!(This message has been edited by Alabama Scouter) Link to post Share on other sites
shortridge 184 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 What are his plans post-high school? If they involve sticking around the local area, then Venturing might make the most sense. Link to post Share on other sites
Tampa Turtle 1011 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I would lean toward Crew if nothing else at that age a lot of boys seem more interested in that program --if they do the activities he likes. The girls don't hurt. But then again some boys would like scouts. I dislike the "too old for Eagle" argument. That should not be the focus for scouts. Link to post Share on other sites
NJCubScouter 1389 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Tampa Turtle says: I dislike the "too old for Eagle" argument. That should not be the focus for scouts. I think that's really up to the young man to decide -- particularly if you broaden the issue from "Eagle" to "advancement in general." I think that someone should explain to him the Boy Scout advancement program as well as the Venturing recognition program and what he would have to do to participate in each. He may not be interested in either -- in which case his main decision-making point would probably be which unit has a program that best suits his interests. Or maybe, once he understands that Venturing has a recognition program that involves activities appropriate for the the 14-21 age group, whereas in Boy Scouting, if he wanted to advance at all he would have to start with activities that are geared more to a 10-12 age group, that might influence his decision. But who knows? Maybe his sole interest is in camping, and ''maybe'' the troop has a better camping program than the crew. (It's probably the case somewhere.) Maybe the presence of young ladies in the crew will be a factor in his decision, one way or the other. There are a number of factors, but I don't think advancement should be excluded as a possible factor. Link to post Share on other sites
Stosh 3452 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Why join the Army if you aren't going to make General? Stosh Link to post Share on other sites
Eagledad 2785 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Do they meet at different times? If so, join both and let him figure it out. My experience is new scouts 14 and older don't usually stay in troop programs very long for the same reason older scouts don't do well in troops that make a big program changes. Barry Link to post Share on other sites
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