Kudu Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 The following titles are suggested as possible movies for Troop JLT weekends because they embody leadership and/or group problem solving. Given the number of new and old classic films that are released now on DVD every year, does anyone have any additional recommendations? Follow Me, Boys Master & Commander: The Far Side of the World The Emperor's Club October Sky The Cowboys (John Wayne) Lost in the Barrens My review of "Master & Commander" for JLT can be found at: http://www.inquiry.net/patrol/training/movies.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike F Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Kudu, Excellent! I like the way you think!! Thx!!! -mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eamonn Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 While I agree with most of the movies on your list, I can't remember much about the Cowboys and don't think I have ever seen Lost in the Barrens !! I really don't see much value in Follow Me Boy's. Sure it's a nice fun Disney type movie, but I don't see much that can be learned from it, unless of course you use it as example of how not to do things. Yes I do have the DVD !! There are some really good parts in the Lord Of The Rings that can be taken out and used as examples of leadership. The entire movies are maybe a little bit too much, but there is some great stuff. Eamonn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGreyEagle Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 The Troop showed "The Great Escape" and in discussions broke down the charactors and how they all contibuted to the team's effort even though each role was much different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oak Tree Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Apollo 13 Oak Tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleInKY Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Remember the Titans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandyt888 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 We have also used Cool Runnings and Miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoutingagain Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Great idea and I like the movies suggested so far. However being a contrarian, two movies I can think of that would provide a good discussion on how leadership may have gone awry might be, Lord of the Flies and Bridge Over the River Kwai. If nothing else Bridge Over the River Kwai will give them a great tune to whistle while they hike. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theysawyoucomin' Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I really like Aubrey for his delegation abilities. Also his passing of the knocking wood and spinning tradition. The Royal Navy, our Navy and my alma mater the Marine Corps are so steeped in tradition. From tradition comes "esprit de Corps" which I think is severly lacking in the world, as though it were a bad thing. He has tremendous interest in his young charges as he knows there must still be a well lead Navy long after he is hauled away to the "home for senile sailors". I'd like to think some of the NCO's in my old battalion do some things the same way as we did. In that way they are my "great grandsons" so to speak. The Maine Corps leadership traits are : judgement justice dependability integrity decisiveness bearing unselfishness courage knowledge loyalty enthusiasm tact initiative endurance I think the movie shows Aubrey displaying all those traits. Remeber the Titans had the forming stormingect. concept and was good. Other than the "forming. storming. conforming . performing model what else do you look for in the "Cowboys" movie? It's been a long time but I don't remeber much in the way of leadership there. What did I miss? October Sky was shown at Wood Badge. It was good. A cleaned up version (if it exists) of Private Ryan would be good but it would really have to be edited. The leader has to stand against the tide when letting the German go free. What about "Glory" with denzel and matthew? What about the submarine movie with hackman and denzel? Miracle on Ice would be very good(i agree with Sandy) and OGE on the "great escape". Loyalty is shown to the blind guy. and all work together. What about Memphis Belle? What about the Kevin Costner cavalry movie where he hunts buffalo with the American Indians and two societies collide? The movie asks the two opposites to look beyond preconceived notions about "the other guy" The Movie "Gettysburg" with Ted Turner is based on the book "Killer Angels" which is required reading for all Marine Corporals. The movie "Clear and Present Danger" has some good loyalty and integrity stuff. Alot of my suggestions are long movies. I'm sorry that I can't remember some of the titles. Please write back about "Cowboys" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperParatus Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Horton Hears A Who...I think it pretty much covers the Scout Law in its entirety. Twelve Angry Men...a PLC meeting with ooomph. For pure leadership contrasts...the first two episodes of Band of Brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleInKY Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I thought about mentioning Twelve Angry Men (and yes, I mean the original with 12 male jurors, starring Henry Fonda). It's a great example of team dynamics and how to use productive conflict to lead your peers. We used it in a team building exercise (not scouts) and stopped the tape after the issue and the characters had been introduced. Everyone picked the order in which opinions would be swayed. It's interesting to watch from that perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 How about: The Poseidon Adventure Chariots of Fire (although I guess it's more about living by principle than leadership) I couldn't help thinking of "The Dirty Dozen," but I guess that wouldn't be age-appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestMom Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Rudy - demonstrates leading by example by someone who is not officially in a leadership position I haven't seen the movie on the Shackleton expedition, but after reading the book Endurance, I was impressed that Shackleton managed to keep his men alive in the Antarctic under unbelievably difficult conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kraut-60 Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 I would suggest the 1949 release "Twelve O'clock High' starring Gregory Peck. This film was used by the United States Navy in it's LMET course. I believe LMET stood for "leadership management education training". This film showed several different and varied styles of leadership as part of it's story line. While attending this course, I viewed the film with others in the course and after seeing it we were broken down into small groups to evaluate the types of leadership skills we had seen in the film, and to discuss each styles pro's and con's. The film was also entertaining and would hold a boys interest by its content and the subject matter. I also endorse the film "Master and Commander, Far side of the World" as a good film for JLT in-troop training. While I greatly enjoyed the film "Saving Private Ryan", I dont believe its content would properly convey a lesson or example in leadership techniques. Its a good film, but its more of a journal of the harsh reality of war.I would also digress from the suggestion of "Crimson Tide", the Gene Hackman-Denzel Washington film about a US Navy SSBN. This is a great movie showing conflict between two senior officers during a crisis involving a potential nuclear war scenario, but its content is way over the top as potential material for an example of leadership training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalicoPenn Posted August 19, 2005 Share Posted August 19, 2005 All the movies mentioned are great examples of movies with leadership roles, but almost all of them are much more suitable for adults - when I think JLT, I think 12-14 year olds - and you want movies that will appeal to them and will hold their interest. What about X-Men and its sequel, X-Men 2? How about one of the Star Trek or Star Wars movies? How about the Steven Spielsberg movie Hook, with an adult Peter Pan as a reluctant leader? CalicoPenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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