gwd-scouter Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I was in our Scout shop a couple of weeks ago purchasing a few uniform items. Woman working there is an old friend and we were talking about the new uniforms and the disappearance of red. She said the red color was being removed/replaced because it had been determined that the color red scares wildlife. I've searched the Internet to find verification of this, but haven't found anything. Does anyone know if this really was one of the reasons for the decision to remove the red shoulder loops, red in patches, red-topped socks, etc.? Seems to me if the folks at National were so worried about scaring animals, they'd be more concerned about a bunch of teen-aged boys tromping through the woods than a few red numbers and a trained strip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Bob Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Oh my gosh! PETA has got someone from its organization into BSA who is making our uniform's animal friendly. Shades of Sea Kittens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGreyEagle Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 C'mon, everyone kows that the Matador (a stupid car of the 70's) flapping a red cape infuriates a bull, (that an the half dozen or so mini-spears stuck in uner his skin) I thought it was pretty conclusive that most animls are color blind anyway On the other hand, if a parol is stealthy enough to sneak up on the citizens of the brush, I would think the BSA would want to put plenty of red n the uniform to alert the animals and prevent harrasment as it is(This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GernBlansten Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I think she was refering to scaring off the boys with the red clown uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMsteve Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 The explanation given in our region centered around red as an identifying color for gangs in certain urban areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emb021 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Sigh. Mythbusters addressed the bulls and red capes story. Bulls are color blind, and are attacted to movement, NOT color. Cripes & Bloods are 2 major gangs and have been around for, oh, 10-20 years? Cripes use blue (uh oh, guess the cub scouts need to change their uniform), and Bloods red. But what about the Guardian Angels and their red berets??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melgamatic Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 The "Crips" were founded in 1971, and the "Bloods" in 1972, so they're coming on 40 years. "Cripes" is what you say when you see something surprising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GernBlansten Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Most animals are color blind, has to do with the rods and cones and some of that mystical biological techno-babble. However, I've heard that insects are not. And bugs that pollinate are attracted to bright colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGreyEagle Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Of course Curtis Sliwa and his Guardian Angels spelled doom for the coolest scouting accessory of all times, the red beret, it totally rocks man On the other hand, I am sure that the red tabs on the old uniform and red troop numbers could easily be mistaken for gang markings. Along those lines, should not there be a National Directive to not wear red neckerchiefs anymore? I would hate to think the red on the Eagle Ribbon be mistaken as a gang related color, perhaps the Eagle medal should be redesigned with a slate grey ribbon, I think thats prety nondescript. To tink of the uniform pants I wore in the 60's with the red piping, I was a gangsta' before anyone knew what they were, talk about being in the cutting edge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle92 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Trust me a Scout uniform will NOT be mistaken for a gang outfit. Now a police uniform... that's a different story! Trust me don't wear a Scout uniform in the New Orleans Housing Authority. Did that 13 years ago when I and a fellow staff member had to drop off a "scout" home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortridge Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Interesting - I've never seen a police officer wear khaki, except a park ranger or game warden. It's blue or white around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocubdad Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Our old Scout Executives used to be afraid of red wool jackets. Does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle92 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Shortridge, Yes NOPD also wore blue uniforms. But my friend and I were being watched, and he told me someone did have their handgun out. I didn't see it, but I saw everyone watching us. One of my more interesting times in Scouting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stosh Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Somehow I'm led to believe that with the noise the average scout troop makes in the woods, no animal in it's right mind would ever get close enough to see that little red/white numeral on the scout's sleeve. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. But I have to admit that the scout store person did say one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long time. Stosh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emb021 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 "But I have to admit that the scout store person did say one of the dumbest things I've heard in a long time." Well, that could probably be a thread in its own right: the dumbest thing said by a scout store person. Or scouting profession. (you figure the volunteers, because we've volunteers, would be less often correct as compared to the people being paid to do this. But I guess since most of us are passionate about it, its the other way around...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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