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  1. gwd-scouter, my troop has also had a constant turn over of scoutmasters. The one difference with my troop is that my troop has been around for over 50 years and we have lost a lot of the organizational structure over the years. When I joined the troop, they had dreadful Boards of Review where they hardly asked anything meaningful of the scouts. I talked to the committee and we have slowly made changes to become organized and boy lead. To try to solve the consistancy problem with the high turn over of scoutmasters, we started putting together a troop operations manual for the scoutmaster.
  2. OldGreyEagle & FScouter, If you read pargolf44067's post, he has an adult appointed unit and he wants to transition to a boy elected troop. We all know from the multiple posts here that the best way is for the boys to elect but pargolf44067 was asking for help to transition. He didn't want to make the dramatic switch but rather cross over gently. If that means they screen scouts (Committee or Scoutmasters) a couple times, and later move to a full election then I would be all for it. The point of the last couple posts was to help give him a process to transition to the "offical BSA
  3. If you are moving to a hybrid (election/appointed) process like you are suggesting pargolf44067 then I would ask the scouts to apply for the positions they want then screen them through the committee. You might find that the scouts you want would rather have a different position.
  4. When it comes to "credit" for being in a position, my troop makes that the decision of the Scoutmaster only. Junior Leader Training is the responsibility of the Scoutmaster so when someone wants to be "signed off" for any leadership requirement in our troop they must talk to the Scoutmaster and review what they have done for their position. This doesn't stop scouts from getting into a position and doing nothing, but if they want "credit" they have to prove their leadership ability.
  5. The big question with this scout is: Was he a life scout for 6 months before he left? Also, did he serve in a leadership position for those 6 months? mrprarar, you are definitely in a tough position but I would show the mother these 2 requirements and any other requirements the scout hasn't completed and explain to her that he can not complete them within the time given before his 18th birthday. Tell her those requirements were in his book well before they left and didn't change. As a Life Scout he should have known what he needed to complete his Eagle rank (listed in his book).
  6. There are several reasons for saying "no" in many situations. A couple examples where troop leadership has said "no" for rank advancement: - The scout was the troop bully, pushing around and intimidating other scouts. He was denied his Eagle because of the "scout spirit" requirement. - A scout going for Star rank was causing problems at scout camp, he barrowed another scouts fishing gear without asking and that scout didn't have his gear for class. The scout also refused to do anything adults asked of him and even went fishing(instead of going to waiter duty) while the rest of t
  7. Here is a link to a website about Leadership Development. I read thru the page and it has a lot of useful information that you could use for your course. http://www.impactfactory.com/gate/leadership_skills_training/freegate_1159-9103-25758.html
  8. Long Haul, packsaddle is correct on my intent. There are 2 adult leaders in my district that have about 12-14 adult knots plus their Wood Badge beads, plus several other layers of awards and the problem I keep seeing is adults that want titles, positions above others, recognitions and other awards. In some cases I've seen adults promote themselves to get a position then they don't do the job or they make a big deal that they are "in charge." This kind of example isn't the example I would want for my scouts. I want them to earn their awards and be proud of what they (the scouts) acheiv
  9. FScouter, the point of cutting corners on Totin Chip is if they do something minor like forgetting to cut away. The corner gets taken off and they have a sit down chat with an adult or Troop Guide about what they did wrong. Some troops will remove Totin Chip for any offense and make them re-learn but that is up to the troop to decide.
  10. I've been the New Scout Patrol ASM for the last several years, and I'm also a Scout Camp Scout Skills director. The first year program I run for the troop I start off with the scout rank requirements then the following meeting I go over 2 things Camping Basics and Totin Chip. The reason I teach them Totin Chip so early is that I know that most parents give them a pocket knife when they join scouts. Once they are taught Totin Chip they should be given a Totin Chip card which they sign on the back. If they miss use their knife or any woods tools you are supposed to cut a corner off thei
  11. I have always had trouble with adult awards, on the one hand they show a Scoutmaster or leader has had a lot of training or has work with his unit for several years on the other I've seen adults decorated like military generals with rows and rows of adult knots. Some of these leaders where their awards all the time while others reserve them for special occasions. As an adult leader I don't wear any knots or other items I've earned because I want to focus on the scouts and their awards, not mine. The ONLY patch or medal I make a point to wear is the Eagle Scout patch. I've had a debate w
  12. anarchist, I know of several scouts troops in my area that put requirements on positions like being a certain rank or even holding a previous leadership position. In order to be an SPL in some troops you must have served as an ASPL and the same for SPL to JASM. Depending on your troop it might be something to consider so that they get their training as an ASPL before they can become an SPL and finally a JASM. Hopefully you have more then one ASPL so the scouts can elect the ASPL that is doing the best job in their minds to SPL. For my troop this wouldn't work since we barely have 2 pat
  13. Eagle76, sorry about the wording on planning. We do let the scouts choose the locations they want to go to but we usually put the burden of finding new places and making reservations with place on the Committee. What I meant was that the scouts need to make a broad year or even two year plan about what they want to do and where they want to go, the committee needs to then approve it and help the scoutmasters make arrangements. As they get closer to time the planning then needs to become more detailed (6 months out) till they get down to the 3 month planning which should be the fine details
  14. When it comes to troop leaders, there are some positions that should be appointed or interviewed for the job but the appointing and interviewing should be done by the youth leadership not adults. In an ideal unit the SPL is elected and then he chooses his ASPL(s). The Patrols then elect their Patrol Leaders and the PLs choose thier assistants. As for the other positions like Quartermaster, Scribe, Librarian, etc. The SPL and ASPL should appoint or interview scout candidates that want the positions. This means that those positions are being filled by scouts the SPL and ASPL have confid
  15. Everything and anything (troop newsletter, troop website, permission slips, parents meetings, etc. etc.) The biggest problem is making sure the parent has the information and that if you give it to a scout it doesn't always make it to the parent.
  16. Since my troop is small we only let former SPLs become JASMs.
  17. My suggestion, bring it up to the full Committee and have the Committee setup the guidelines for the boards. Define the process, what is expected of the scout at each rank, maybe a list of sample questions for each rank, max/min length of time for a board. When I was put in-charge of the boards for my troop the first thing I did was put in place the guidelines with the support of the committee. Having them makes sure the boards are fair, there is documentation for what is acceptable and not, and it makes for a good training tool for new Board of Review members to maintain consistancy.
  18. Ok, there are several ways to get to a Boy-led Patrol-Method troop but the first step has to be with the adults. Discuss the situation with the Committee and the Scoutmasters. They need to take a hard look at what they are doing vs. what the scouts should be doing. The committee is a support tool for the scoutmasters to help with finance, safety, equipment, recruiting, etc. The Scoutmasters are the guides. They help teach and guide scouts to become effective leaders and outstanding citizens. They need to be able to look at the situation and stand back and watch. Many times the scouts wil
  19. When the new Scoutmaster took over we decided we needed to reorganize the patrols. Anyone below first class was put in the new scout patrol. First Class, Star and even one Life Scout below the age of 14 were put in the Experienced Scout patrol. All of the other scouts above age 14 were put into a Venture patrol. Breaking the group into sections rather then mixed patrols actually worked out better for our troop. The first year scouts had the freedom of trying to figure things out instead of an older scout showing them the first time. The experienced scouts could work on badges that
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