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Thanks E92. I think I saw this one awhile back, but thought it was a lapel pin or something since the description is lacking.

DeaconLance, Which edition of the Insignia guide is your reference from? The one on National's website, http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Media/InsigniaGuide/06E.aspx there is no option for a metal pin; however, I do believe that is the 07-08 IG; I'm not sure what the 09-10 (or later) IGs state.

"My boy was turned off by (a) lack of uniforms and (b) girl in the ad." - Tampa Turtle The girl in the ad is most likely representative of the fact that this is the first Jambo open to Venturers (co-ed). I agree though, the lack of uniforms is also displeasing.

This post got me thinking... What do the troops who still use the rank pins do for Eagle Scouts that earn Eagle at, say, 15 or 16 and will be in the troop for a few years yet? I don't believe there is an eagle rank pin available from national right now, as there are for all other ranks; one wouldn't presumably wear the medal in this case since the medal is only for formal occasions.

Are patrol campouts/hikes still authorized by BSA and G2SS? EDIT: If so, do any of your patrols do this?(This message has been edited by AJR2305GDC)

According to the 2008 printing of the Boy Scout/Varsity Scout uniform inspection sheet (#34283), there are patch placements for both the ODL and CU. If there is a pocket on the sleeve, the trained patch goes on the flap of the pocket; if there is no pocket, the trained patch goes below the POR.

To All: Thanks for the replies. You have all been a great help. By the way, I meant tenderfoot; somehow I got it mixed up with FC - don't know how that happened.

Can the old explorer garrison caps be worn with the venturing uniform? Also, is there a garrison cap (to anyone's knowledge) with the first class emblem bordered in brown on a forest cap with brown piping?

Which unit?

My recommendation is Gardner Dam Camp in northern Wisconsin. Although it appears you are from SR, there have been troops from your region before. Mornings involve merit badges in 3 periods: 9-10, 10-11, and 11-12, with a few MBs (climbing, lifesaving, canoeing) taking 9-10:30 and 11-12:30. Also, there is a rare whitewater MB program that runs from 9-12:30 or 2-5. Afternoons are devoted to fun, except for a few merit badge offerings (WW, art ind. study, bird study ind. study, backpacking ind. study, hiking ind. study). There is a very efficiently-run Eagle Challenge (T-2-1) program

http://news.yahoo.com/scout-leader-fatally-stabbed-ind-hiking-trip-071727953.html (I'm going to leave this duplicate thread open because it has the link to the above article. However, I encourage everyone to go to the first version of this thread in the Open Discussion Forum) (This message has been edited by a staff member.)

As far as rope goes, if you get manila, I recommend 1/4" or maybe 3/8" - should be strong enough unless you plan to build, say, a monkey bridge. Then I'd recommend quite a bit larger rope - I've used either 3/4" or 1" (I don't remember which). Probably best to buy a little more than a few hundred feet - spools are usually 1/4" x 1200' or 3/8" x 800' or 1/2" x 600' and could be cheaper than only a few hundred feet if you can find a supplier. Excess can be stored in a cool dry environment for next summer. Sisal rope is stronger for each diameter compared to manila, but MUCH more expensive.

To all: Thanks for your input. I think that the bugler POR is important, but even when working on camp staff for a few years I think I only heard one other bugle besides the camp bugle (at AM and PM flag, and playing taps at the closing campfire). Quite sad. My troop currently has a few band members, and I think a few may play trumpet/cornet - I should work on convincing them to bugle, at least for summer camp.

Just want to see how popular buglers are these days ... Does your unit use a bugler? If so, how? What type of bugle do you use? My current troop does not use a bugler, though sometimes it would be nice to have one.

thanks eaglescout1996!

eaglescout1996: When did you get your newer poly/wool? Just wondering if the features not listed on Supply's website could have changed, e.g. dry cleaning. AJR2305gdc

emb, Don't forget that CoD (and therefore the flaps) are not part of an official BSA program - maybe they're trying to discourage involvement in the Corps of Discovery - Just my thought.

A somewhat nicer pair of pants is the Canvas Convertible Pants ($34.99-$39.99). No elastic and, although seams may not hold up (personal experience), you can take them back to the Scout Shop and they'll replace them.

UCEagle72 - Thanks for the speedy response! Hopefully this will be fixed soon ...

Has anyone else had the problem of not being able to use the Training Validation applicaiton in MyScouting? Tried it in 2 different accounts in the past 2 days. Although there is a notice saying that the system will be down midnight to 8AM 3/26 and 3/27, this feature is still not working, and unless anyone knows how to print out a list of one's training certificaitons another way, I need this to work. Any suggestions?

YES!!!! KNEE SOCKS ARE BACK!!!!!! (caps for extreme joy!) Also agree with ridding the program of the patch holders, and for keeping at least the same cap & necker slide, but I like the idea of the wolf and bear separate neckers

- I second the polo activity shirts; - better binding on the BS Requirements books - like idea of paperwork, MB books, and other handbooks on CD/online - standard patrol flags - maybe more troops would use them (personal experience w/ troops not having/using patrol flags) - non-zipoff shorts and pants - as camp staff, only wear shorts in summer, but then can't use the "legs" of the pants since they are a very noticeable different color from the shorts due to fading - no pocket on left sleeve of CU - knee socks - uniform shirt (BS) w/ buttonhole on right pocke

Eagle92, thanks for the clarifications - I'd seen the expedition hat mentioned before, but used the name I saw on scoutstuff. AJR2305GDC

Eagle92: Yes, I meant the expedition hat - Supply calls it the brimmed hat (see link above) - makes no sense to me. I hope I am taking this the right way - you mean this hat can be worn with any hat, right? Thanks

Can the BSA Brimmed Hat be worn with any uniform (i.e. - Venturing), or just the B.S. uniform? (http://www.scoutstuff.org/BSASupply/ItemDetail.aspx?cat=01RTL&ctgy=PRODUCTS&c2=UNIFORMS&C3=UHATS&C4=&LV=3&item=637&prodid=637^8^01RTL&) Also, does anyone know where I could find ODL-style knee socks? Thanks! AJR2305GDC