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  1. @jsychk  Are you the Advancement Chair?  If so, then I would let the Webelos Den Leader handle it.  It is the Webelos Den Leader's responsibility to approve (or not approve) adventures and rank advancements.

    Not sure what this Scout's circumstances are, but there are ways for him to complete the Scouting Adventure even if he misses some of the den meetings or if he is in a den by himself.

  2. On 11/24/2019 at 10:22 AM, TAHAWK said:

    it is hard to check summer camp "Merit Badge Counselors" because most of them, in the camps I have witnessed in operation over a six-state area since 1981 are not Merit Badge Counselors.  They are minors -thus  ineligible to be Merit Badge Counselors - assigned by council employees to conduct Merit Badge sessions and participate in the faking of records.  There will be no record of their registration, because they are not registered as Position Code 42 Merit Badge Counselors, an adult position.   Field sports and waterfront are more likely to have actual Merit Badge Counselors due to liability issues.


    I'm just speculating here, but I bet what they are doing is using 16-17 year old minors as "instructors", and having a registered Merit Badge Counselor (age 18+) sign the forms.  It's OK to use instructors who are not MBCs, but it's supposed to be the MBC who actually tests and approves merit badge requirements.  I suspect that they are using the non-registered instructors to do all of the testing / approving, and just having the registered MBCs sign the paperwork.  As you said, exceptions would be areas with liability concerns such as: shooting sports, water-related merit badges, climbing, etc.

  3. Not sure if this is what you are looking for or not, but we found some green pants at in the men's section at Wal-Mart that are pretty similar to Scout pants.  They appear to be made from rip stop material.  We have only had them for about 6 months, but they have held up pretty well so far.  The brand name is "Genuine Dickies".

  4. In my council, I have been told that the Scout turns in their part of the blue cards (or a copy of the blue card, so the original blue cards don't get lost) at the same time as the Eagle Scout rank application.  The dates on the blue cards are checked against the electronic dates that are in ScoutNet.  ScoutNet syncs with Scoutbook, so merit badges that are approved in Scoutbook should be visible to the council in ScoutNet.  If the dates don't match, they can be corrected.

    I don't know how a council could really check the names of merit badge counselors on blue cards - especially for MBCs outside of their own council (frequently the case for summer camps).  Also, some of the MBC info. on blue cards can sometimes be a bit hard to read (whose name is this?  LOL).  It might not be an issue unless the parents try to sign blue cards for their Scout when they aren't MBCs (but this is the type of thing that hopefully gets caught at the unit level).

  5. Bugling is definitely one of the more difficult merit badges.  It took my son several months to earn it, even though he played trumpet in band.  (He had some difficulty reaching the high notes.)

    Signs, Signals, and Codes is kind of difficult, because there is a lot of material to learn.

    Game Design is more difficult that some Scouts might expect, because it has its own specific terminology / jargon.  And also because the Scouts have a tendency to want to just design their game and be done with it, but the merit badge requires an iterative process of play testing and making modifications / improvements to their game.

  6. 2 hours ago, mashmaster said:

    In my times at camp, we would get a report on the evening of the night before the last day at camp and they had the counselors available to discuss what is in the report.  If we had any questions, we could talk with them about discrepancies.  

    Not a great solution, but it helped.  I would have preferred to see it daily so I could talk to the scouts throughout the week. 


    This is also what I have seen at summer camps.  Usually Thursday afternoon / evening they make the reports or blue cards available, and the Scouts have Thursday night / Friday to finish stuff up or discuss with MBCs anything that was marked incorrectly.

    As for partials, depending on the merit badge, the Scout might be able to finish the requirements at home, but would still need to find a registered MBC for the merit badge in question in order to get the final approvals.

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  7. By "retreats", I assume that this probably refers to campouts.  Campouts usually last at least one night, and there is more time and more opportunities for things to happen.  Whatever went wrong seems to have gone wrong on multiple occasions.  Did they not have 2-deep leadership as required?

  8. There is a neighboring summer camp near me that allows Scouts to bring bikes (and helmets) as a way to shorten travel time between program areas.  This camp also has a cycling/mountain bike program.

    It was a good thing, for the most part.  However, sometimes Scouts would ride their bikes through the middle of camp too fast, which could be a problem if you can't see people on the path around the turn ahead or when they would try to jump little hills / berms that had people on the other side that they couldn't see.

  9. 2 hours ago, fred8033 said:

    I've seen many worn on the shirt like the original poster.

    Mine have put them on the back of the MB sash.  I'd like to say it's because of I'm a rule follower and I've read the insignia guide.  I have read it.  I like to follow the rules.  But there is a more important reason.  Sewing dozens of little segments is a lot of work !!!!   What happens when they grow in size ?  One mother said you cut that panel off the old shirt and re-sew it to the new shirt as a panel. 

    My family is lucky to keep the main patches accurate over the years.  Rank.  Position.  Misc.  We'd never succeed keeping the huge panel of segments current ... in my house.  


    I started using velcro for ranks, position, JTE, etc.  Then I put sticky back velcro (cut it down so that it's smaller than the patch) on the back of the patch.  Makes it much easier to keep up with patches that change a lot.

  10. 52 minutes ago, Liz said:

    That's how it's done in my current Council and in the Council I was in before. At least in the previous council the round patch placed on the right pocket was a District patch which you could argue had some value by itself (the segments being a different matter). But in my council it's just a 2nd council patch, which is, if nothing else, redundant. If you buy a shirt with patches pre-sewn at the local Council office, they even include this extra council patch. 

    I don't like it. I grudgingly complied with it on my daughter's blue uniform, but now that she's in tan, nope. My older kids did it and I always thought it looked tacky. I'm far from uniform police, but this is so far away from a neat and tidy look that I just boycott it. 


    In my council, Cub Scouts really love to put all of their patches on the red brag vest.  They could get a round council patch, put it on the back of the vest, and then put all of their segments in rings around the council patch.  To me, this looks better than trying to fit all of that under the right pocket.  I have only seen Cub Scouts wear the red vest, though - not older Scouts.

  11. My understanding is that Committee Chairs are responsible for it, although the CC can designate someone (usually someone else on the committee) to be the processor.  If you have Scouts who have stopped showing up to meetings, then I could see having the Scoutmaster be the one to contact them to find out if they plan to recharter or not.

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  12. Also, the requirements for Scout rank say:

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    All requirements for the Scout rank must be completed as a member of a troop or as a Lone Scout. If you have already completed these requirements as part of the Webelos Scouting Adventure, simply demonstrate your knowledge or skills to your Scoutmaster or other designated leader after joining the troop.


    So the Scouts have to at least demonstrate their knowledge / skills after joining the troop.  The requirements are mostly similar (but not exactly the same) between the AOL Scouting adventure and Scout rank, but the standards are different ("Do Your Best" vs. passed as written).  If they are able to demonstrate their knowledge and skills, and if they are able to get the parent pamphlet exercises done, and if there are existing patrols (with flag and yell), then it is possible to earn Scout rank at the first or second troop meeting.  It typically takes more time to earn now that it is a rank - not just a joining badge.

  13. Going back to the Cyber Chip requirement, there is a change this year where a new preview adventure called "Protect Yourself Rules" can be used in place of the Cyber Chip.  So AOL Scouts who crossover this year might have earned this adventure instead of the Cyber Chip.  However, the "Protect Yourself Rules" adventure cannot be used as a substitute for the Cyber Chip for Scout rank, so they will have to earn it.

    From what I have seen, Scouts who take longer than a month to earn Scout rank typically have difficulty with saying from memory:  the Scout Oath, Scout Law, Outdoor Code, etc.  Or they haven't done the Scouts BSA version of the pamphlet "How to Protect Your Children from Child Abuse: A Parents Guide" with their parent / guardian (the pamphlet for Scouts BSA is different from the one they did as Cub Scouts, because it is aimed at older youth).  If they haven't earned the Cyber Chip yet and they are currently in the 6th grade, then the holdup is usually getting them to do Cyber Chip requirement 2 (write and sign a personalized contract with your parent or guardian).

  14. On 10/30/2019 at 6:43 AM, JasonG172 said:

    Sorry, what are "Tech" Fabrics 

    You put tennis balls inside the sleeping bag? or just in the machine ? 

     

    Basically synthetic materials.  I wouldn't use it to wash a down sleeping bag.

    I put the tennis balls in the dryer.  Leave the sleeping bag open (as much as you can), and just let the tennis balls bounce around.

  15. There is a council near me that uses segments.  They seem to encourage it for older Scouts (in troops) - not just Cub Scouts (usually worn on the red brag vest).  If I remember correctly, they wear it in the temporary patch spot on the right pocket - basically counting the center patch and all segments as the temporary patch.

  16. 33 minutes ago, mrkstvns said:

    Yep.  A lunch would be better than packing only trail snacks. Maybe lunch and a smaller amount of trails snacks is the smarter way to go....

    I'm not sure what kind of "communication device" other than a cell phone would be practical and useful. As an adult leader, I'd have my cell phone with me, but certainly every scout doesn't need the tempting distraction of having one so they can play Fortnight as they march down the trail. Hence, it has no place on the packing list. 

    For emergency purposes, I think one or two cell phones (held by adults) is good. It gives you some measure of communication if service exists, otherwise, the tried and true method of sending a buddy pair to call for help works just fine.


    We sometimes use walkie-talkies with a good range, so that we can contact someone (not on the hike) in case something happens.  Other communication devices might be appropriate but can also be more expensive (satellite phone, emergency beacon).

  17. For a 10 mile hike, I might be inclined to pack more food than just trail snacks.  Lunch, perhaps, given your estimated finish time of around noon.  Or cash, if you might decide to stop for lunch somewhere after the hike.  Certainly, cash would weigh less.

    Consider using some kind of backup communication device (other than cell phones) in case you all get lost or someone gets injured.

     

  18. 3 minutes ago, MattR said:

    Yep. Not my idea. I'm so far from cubs I really don't remember any of it.


    I think the BSA is trying to discourage teaching them together, because the overall course goals are different.  At any rate, there seems to be a lot more knot tying in the current Cub Scout program than I remember there being in the old program.

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