Wallace
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Brotherhood member in Wa-Hi-Nasa Lodge #111.
Active when the other BSA/parenting duties allow.
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Add the training codes...
G2SS
WLOE
BALOO
and any other local manifestations.
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Note that the Lodge will require reservations at least 1 year in advance. It is worth it and the food is excellent.
There are many approaches but the Alum Cave trail is the shortest and generally regarded at steepest.
There is a AT shelter here as well, but I am not clear on the current reqs. for reservations. Contact the G.S.N.P. Park Office.
When are you going?
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Is it everyone's experience that Scouters shake with the right hand by impulse.
Why not the left?
I am trying to encourage the Scout handshake with adults and therefore be example to the boys.
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Start here:
http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/index.htm
It will lead you to all the rest..there are so many!
Have fun!
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It is great that they were participating.
It does seem odd in the context of our "no camo-military uniform-military marching-don't you dare ever do anything like the military or Navy" forum discussions that this would happen.
It sounds like they could have been perceived by the public as "junior" National Guard.
I do not have the appropriate BSA literature here to look it up.
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I am looking for members of the Southeast Region - Troop 202 that attended Dalajamb 79 (1979 Dalajamb International Encampment)in Sweden.
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Sounds like a Scout Sprit issue to me.
But as others have said...how to make it empirical?
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Thank you for the reminder.
Here is a great way to show our pride:
Let Freedom Ring
National Bell Ringing Ceremony this Friday at 2pm EDST.
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To bring things back around...
REVERENT
A Scout is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others.
How can a person swear to uphold this 12th point of the Scout Law and still be polytheistic?
How can the BSA allow someone to join and list this religion knowing that they cannot be faithful to both?
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To bring things back around...
REVERENT
A Scout is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others.
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Wooooooohhhhhh Fellas!
It was just a speculative question based upon what they do in the U.K.. It was not meant as a manifesto.
I do not suggest that there is a problem with the BSA program.
They have taken (mostly) positive steps to alter the program over the years to address the issues.
I do not have a problem with the 13 yr old Eagle (see all of your posts on the subject Bob-I agree with all of them and 99% of your other opinions).
As you Bob (and others) have said, it is not the program, but the delivery of it at the Troop/Pack level where deviation occurs and things fall apart.
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Given the huge volume of ongoing discussion about:
1) Boys earning Eagle at a young age. (12 or 13...you know what I mean)
2) The affect of the three "G's" on older Scouts and their retention rate within the Troop.
3) The need for older boys to move on to high adventure programs and separate themselves from the younger boys. (The large increase each year in the Venturing Crew numbers are partial evidence of this.)
4) The great maturity and ability difference between a boy of 11 and a boy of 17.
I am also just plain curoius what experience Scouts in other nations have with this.
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Especially with the "national might pull the charter" option floating around. The local membership has a lot of thinking to do...
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I took the stated ages from the website and slightly adjusted them to our current program groups.
Wallace
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What do you think... Should the BSA revise the age ranges for the three divisions.
For discussion, I propose the system currently in place in the U.K.. (and maybe other places-I do not know)
Here is the link:
http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/index.htm
Approx. conversion of the program is:
Cub Scouts 6 to 10.5
Boy Scouts 10.5 to 15
Venturing 14 to 18
Other 18 to 25
If you know if this was done in the U.S. in the distant past, please speak up.
Thanks!
Wallace
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Just read the G2SS and follow it in every BSA thing you do. I take a copy with me to all BSA events/meeting/etc. for reference or to share with others.
It really is very simple.
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Sorry...this was to be posted under the uniform pride discussion.
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As I read through all the posts everyday, a trend quickly develops for all of them. This unform thread is no different.
The program breaks down when:
The adults do not follow exactly what is in the handbook or in the G2SS.
The adults do not attend training for their position.
The adults attend training and then do not apply the training.
The adults do not adequately educate parents as to the means, methods, costs and time requirements of the program.
As an Eagle Scout ('75), Brotherhood Member of the OA, and Webelos Den Leader, I feel Robert Baden-Powell, Thomas Seaton, and my old Scoutmaster looking over my shoulder every time I put on the uniform of the BSA.
It is like wearing a comfortable old coat. Maybe I am just paranoid.
I had the misfortune/joy of being at Chuck E. Cheese this past weekend.
While there, my sons pulled me to the restroom. By their frantic voices I assumed that something was wrong.
In the vestibule, I saw the object of their excitement. Framed on the wall was a fake Boy's Life poster of Chuck E. Cheese himself...wearing a tan uniform, neckerchief and campaign hat.
The images of Scouting are powerful.
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As I read through all the posts everyday, a trend quickly develops for all of them. This unform thread is no different.
The program breaks down when:
The adults do not follow exactly what is in the handbook or in the G2SS.
The adults do not attend training for their position.
The adults attend training and then do not apply the training.
The adults do not adequately educate parents as to the means, methods, costs and time requirements of the program.
As an Eagle Scout ('75), Brotherhood Member of the OA, and Webelos Den Leader, I feel Robert Baden-Powell, Thomas Seaton, and my old Scoutmaster looking over my shoulder every time I put on the uniform of the BSA.
It is like wearing a comfortable old coat. Maybe I am just paranoid.
I had the misfortune/joy of being at Chuck E. Cheese this past weekend.
While there, my sons pulled me to the restroom. By their frantic voices I assumed that something was wrong.
In the vestibule, I saw the object of their excitement....
Framed on the wall was a fake Boy's Life poster of Chuck E. Cheese himself...wearing a tan uniform, neckerchief and campaign hat.
The images of Scouting are powerful.
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Wearing it correctly is not the issue.
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4) In the 70's, our troop was one of the first in the U.S. to wear the beret.
We hated it.
It was hot in summer and did not shade the face.
In winter, your ears froze.
Additionally, no one ever wore it correctly.
Lets not repeat our mistakes.
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I am going to step over the line now so avert your eyes...
Tie this thread to the Dade County thread and...
If only it could be proven that Lee was gay,
(with revisionist history we can prove just about anything now-a-days) then the local United Way could pay for the flags and patches revision.
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Please remember:
the Eagle Scout is the "Elite of Scouting."
Wood Badge is not the "Phd of Scouting"...it is a means to an end.
As in all BSA Leader training, the end is to better deliver the program to the kids.
AOL Requirement #4
in Cub Scouts
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AOL Requirement #4 states, "With your Webelos den, visit...one Boy Scout-oriented outdoor activity."
Our den (and parents) visited a Troop during their Summer Camp. Total time with the Boy Scouts was about 3 hrs. over two days.
Do you think that satisfies the requirement?
Would Webelos visiting a Boy Scout summer camp-wide campfire show satisfy this requirement as well?
Thanks.