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I get a little sick of hearing the "well... you carry a rifle" argument.

 

Less than 1% are ever going to carry a rifle. The argument doesn't hold water and I resent the fact that the other 99% are making an argument off the service of others.

 

Having carried a rifle at 18 and 2 months I don't want my son to do it and he can darn sure wait until he is 21 for a lot of things.

 

 

What billet do these people fill in a pack or Troop? I would think the person would have to be exceptional to do this at less than 25. Are they leading a den of boys, directing a part of a camp. They may have been an ASM for less than a year.

 

I don't think there is a hard and fast number rule but I think a Wood Badger should have SOME time under his/ her belt.

 

AT 18 they graduated from school and in October they took training the next June(or so) prior to WB they would turn 19. The years don't seem to add up.

 

I like what wingnut said.

Fair winds and following seas Mary.

 

She was one in a million.

 

My favorite was the Greenland Whale Fisheries song

 

"then the boat capsized and I lost my darling man,

No more no more Greenland For you Brave Boys"

 

Also very partial to "take me for a ride in a Car , Car"

Fair winds and following seas Mary.

 

She was one in a million.

 

My favorite was the Greenland Whale Fisheries song

 

"then the boat capsized and I lost my darling man,

No more no more Greenland For you Brave Boys"

 

Also very partial to "take me for a ride in a Car , Car"

Nick,

Have you had a chance to eat more than hot dogs and Ramen?

 

 

We made 6 apple pies this weekend for 47 people(joint Webelos and Troop camping trip) and had enough left over for some for breakfast.

Nick,

Have you had a chance to eat more than hot dogs and Ramen?

 

 

We made 6 apple pies this weekend for 47 people(joint Webelos and Troop camping trip) and had enough left over for some for breakfast.

Nick,

Have you had a chance to eat more than hot dogs and Ramen?

 

 

We made 6 apple pies this weekend for 47 people(joint Webelos and Troop camping trip) and had enough left over for some for breakfast.

If a Scout cannot part with his cell phone for one hour a week and other activities then he needs help.

 

Exceptions like: my grammie is in the hospital etc. are of course allowed.

 

 

Most of that stuff is, "Did you hear what chuckie said to brittany in school today.

Gutter, Best of luck with this, I don't envy you.

 

The boy would have a very hard time advancing at all in our Troop. We are also rude enough to tell each other when crap like this goes on that it is unacceptable.

Sounds like a topic for committee discussion.

 

When his birthday comes does he just eat the frosting or the whole cake.

 

I abhor selfishness!!!!!!!!

Wow thanks Beav!!!!!

I'll have to look up the article but I wonder if it is written by the hateful little wench who spoke about her 3 yr old humping over glaciers in Alaska. Backpacker magazine has a book that talks about ditching around your tent in the 1960 version of the Scout Handbook. Backpacker does not say what the publishers of the same book were discharging into rivers in the 1960's. Must have been some other society that allowed the Cayahoga River to be polluted and catch fire. The Hudson was to be a condemned open sewer in those days. The authors diaper may have been emptied into a river but now they are so much holier than thou. The magazine is nice but they always put down the Scouts. I'm a little sick of the eco snobs that buy a bumper sticker for two bucks while I spend hundreds on licence fees and thousands on wetlands thru Ducks Unlimited.

 

 

 

Look in the 1948 edition of the Scout handbook it has a back pack made from an old pair of pants.

 

 

About the cost of camping gear, I am tired of being made to feel guilty because I can afford something and others can't. I can afford a backback. My kid has the $90 Kelty (Tioga?) that grows. He earned $60 thru the cub pack sorting thousands and thousands of returnable bottles earning $10 a whack. I supplied the other $30. Teach kids to get off their tails and find an honest way to earn a few bucks. Lots of lawns to mow in the NE with rain we have been getting.

 

that same issue of the handbook has plans for a pack frame. The internet has plans for a packbasket using two five gallon pails.

 

Comparing to sports have you priced a baseball glove or an aluminum bat lately? Well I guess the bat could be used to defend your home now that owning a gun carries more social stigma than most social diseases.

 

 

I've said it before nothing can teach you preparedness and planning like backpacking---especially winter backpacking. Nature is a teacher that does not lower her standards on the lessons she teaches.

 

I would be in favor of the BP merit badge. The 20 nights of car camping is good for year one and two even three but after that let's reqire a bp trip or 5 day canoe paddle.

 

I would agree this is allowable policy

 

 

Eagle 1987 --are you in the right thread?

 

Nobody here is endorsing a YP voilation.

 

Please re-read the original comment. YP has nothing to do with this.

The sticker, which is also made in Communist China, cost about 1 cent the Merit badge probably costs 20 cents. Both are made by people making $2.50 each week and they live good; In a barracks style dorm and they send money home.

 

A company I know sub-contracts with a cast iron foundry there. The workers pour molten cast iron while wearing sandals and a regular holey shirt. The roof has a huge hole in it. No safety gear at all.

 

I think the country of origin law has been around since the 1920's.

Until National comes out with more specific guidance we are all just left to arguing this situation.

 

I have the same deal with a kid that did his Firefighter 1 certification. Would he have been a firefighter is he missed 4 months of classes?

 

Why do we allow him to earn Eagle when his participation is bad.

He earned it but only because there is no better National standard. I sat on the BOR and felt that I saved a lot of time with appeals. The kid's mother was so self righteous she would not have quit.

 

HEY NATIONAL UP THE STANDARD AND THE BOYS WILL ADHERE TO IT!!!!!!

 

back to the original: 25% one meeting a month. I would be happy with that.

Please let us know which ones you try and how they are and what you learned.

There are a million recipes in the world but very few with "camping style" feedback.

So Gern if you were the "boss" what would the uniform look like?

 

"Trainwreck" Jumbled mass of tangled up stuff

 

Polish Trainwreck

 

In a Dutch oven place layers like so

Top

Kielbasa

Cabbage(quartered)

Onions

Potatoes

Bottom

 

Add two cups of water and cook for 40-50 minutes.

The Kielbasa drips down into the other stuff and yummm!!!

We took this from a Forest Service book and renamed it. The Book was

"Camp Cooking 100 years Gibbs Smith Publisher---worth every penny.

It calls for Corn on the Cob but we don't have a really deep oven. they claim they got the method from seashore cookouts. I have had potatoes, lobster, shrimp and clams all from the same pot.

 

 

 

Dutch Oven Apple pie

 

Take yer Mama's 9" Apple Pie Recipe and put three stones in the bottom of a 12" DO. Object: get the pie off the bottom of the oven.

10 coals on bottom and 14 on top. In 45 minutes you got good eats.

 

Longer if it is windy.

 

We now make apple pie on every middle and heavy weight camping trip. No more dump cake!!!!!

 

 

 

 

Maple Apple Dumplings--We first made this at +3 degress F

 

A camping recipe from Hague Freezeout who adapted this from a recipe on www.inquiry.net. This tastes great. After 25 minutes check on it. Be sure somebody is there watching because you will be weak in the knees from the great smell.

Prep Time: 40 minutes

Ingredients:

5 Granny Smith apples

20 canned biscuits (you know the rolled up paper tube kind)

2 cups water

2 sticks butter

1 cup sugar

cinnamon

one quarter cup real maple syrup

Preparation:

Cut, peel, core and slice apples into 1/8th wedges. Line Dutch oven with foil. Melt butter and mix sugar and water all together. Cut each buscuit in half and form around each individual apple wedge. Pour half of water mixture into lined Dutch oven. Put in biscuit/apples. Pour rest of water mixture over top of buscuit/apples. Drip about a quarter cup of maple syrup on top. Sprinkle with some cinnamon. Cook in Dutch oven for about 40 minutes. For 10" Dutch oven use 10 coals on bottom and 16 on top. For 12" Dutch oven use 12 coals on bottom and 18 on top. Be sure to spin the lid and rotate the oven about every 10 minutes to prevent hot spots.

Servings: 6-10

Preparation time: 40 minutes or until top is golden brown. But dont' keep peeking because you lose heat.

 

Simple Popcorn

 

Put oil in DO one kernel deep. put two or three kernels in and set lid ajar. When they pop yer oil is hot enough. add one heaping handfull of corn. Pop the corn with lid in place. Listen for popping to stop.Add salt and melted real butter to taste.

 

Kids raised on Microwave popcorn think this is the greatest popcorn ever, and if you never had oil popped corn it is the best you've ever had.

 

 

 

You can't go wrong with those four, that will get you started. When the end of the world comes I'm going to have a dutch oven in each hand.

 

Good luck and remember to wear your gloves when you tend the coals

Campground A Loop is a Scout Loop.

 

All Scout Troops are required to call 301-344-3948 and reserve space in the Scout Loop portion of the campground throughout the year.

 

The Scout rate is $ 16.00 per site.

 

Scouts must have a tour permit and proof of insurance.

Please have the United States of America listed as the co-insurer of the time they are here at the campground.

 

Reservations are taken over the phone by calling 301-344-3948. Reservations cannot be made by email or the website.

 

All campground rules are in effect for the A Loop as well.

 

Please pick up a copy of the campground rules and regulations and share them with your troop.

 

Here are some of the guidelines for the campground:

 

3 tents, 6 people and 2 vehiclesare the maximum for each site.

No attachments to the trees including clotheslines.

Please contain all fires in the grills and completely put them out before leaving the site.

Keep the bathroom clean and report any damage to the ranger or host.

Apply the Leave No Trace principles to the campground.

Please help us preserve the campground for future generations.

 

The park also has service projects if your troop wants to contribute to the park. An hour or two can help preserve this park for this and future generations.

 

 

 

 

Here is the Scout Loop Bathroom that includes showers

 

 

 

 

 

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Hiking

 

There are four trails in the park.

 

-The Azalea Trail is 1.1 miles and is marked by white blazes. It begins and ends at the Sweetgum Picnic area located near the entrance of the park.

-The Perimeter Trail is 5.3 miles and is marked by yellow blazes.

-The Dogwood Trail is 1.4 miles and is marked by red blazes.

-The Blueberry Trail is 1 mile and is located near the campground area and is marked by blue blazes.

 

 

 

 

Picnicing

 

There are three picnic areas in Greenbelt Park.

 

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To Summer camp, and camporees. Full uniform.

To Merit Badge events full uniform.

 

To camping trips no. Class B or whatever for that.

I agree with all replies especially Mafaking.

 

Eagle, for me it is gold bond medicated powder

X,

There is not a Woodbadger alive that will EVER forget that game.

 

Mention win all you can to anybody that has played they are not going to forget the lesson or the moral.

 

I just think you should reserve the details for those going to the course, there's no secrets but we had one person in my Patrol that talked about a lot of phases of the course.

 

I don't wsnt to know how the movie ends while I'm watching it. Titanic is and exception also and WW2 movie. I know Hitler dies in the end.

This kid looks like he's is going to take my order at Burger King

 

http://www.scoutshops.com/acatalog/scouts-uniform.html

 

 

Heck Baden your namesake wore ribbons with his uniform.

I agrree I'm not wearing "Class A's to the next canoe trip.

 

 

Those British prices ain't exactly cheap when you do the conversion to dollars and don't forget about the VAT(I am not sure it applies). Ours are still more expensive.

 

 

Adel,

what do you mean by "tactical". I've been tactical in Beirut and Kuwait, there ain't a darn thing that is cool about it. With all the weight I carried and sleeping in the rain tactical and comfortable are mutually exclusive.

 

 

I thought the game was valid given the context of the WB course.

 

I don't believe there will ever be world peace though it is something to strive for.

 

The game does bring out emotions and is symbolic in it's teaching.

 

Google Jonathan Swift's "A Modest Proposal". I think he had a point to make I think the game does too.

 

I wish you had not divulged the entire game here because I think it has worth and you have basically ruined the value to those heading for the course.

 

As a commissioned sales rep I have a very stressful job that I feel is one of the last bastions of capitalism left in a "strong carry the weak" world. I agree it is against the laws of nature not to be in competition. I am not at all for the everybody gets a trophy mindset. I thought the game was more about honor and keeping your word to others.

 

That is what I left the game with.

So J what would your uniform look like?

 

 

I agree with tee shirts but I'd like something a little nicer for COH and helping people in the public eye. What would we march in parades with?

 

Let's look at what the Marine Corps does, they know a bit about uniforms.

 

First you have Utilities, camo uniform used for getting dirty. Mechanics wear coveralls to fix hummers, Amtracks and helos. So thats your "Class B". For anyone in "combat arms" this is what they wear every day, except for more formal occasions.

 

For more formal occasions we have "Service". The summer service "C" uniform looks 85% like the current uniform that "everybody" loves to loathe. In fact Oscar de la whatever did not deserve a nickel for designing the uniform he just saw some young PFC or Lance Corporal in an airport at the last minute and poof, that's what we had for years.

 

Next comes "Dress" which we don't need. It just shows the three levels.

 

You are never going to get one uniform to do everything.

 

I sure as heck don't want to become an all Tshirt group. But if there's a chance to mess up your uniform with stray sparks while DO cooking or picking up trash, a unit (Troop level) conceived Tshirt is the way to go.

 

Goes back to the original statement that there is a time and a place (and a uniform) for everything.

I hate when units say this is "an unofficial activity".

 

You can't obey half the rules

 

What they should say is, "Insurance is not covering this and the organizers are personally liable, you, "yourself" are on your own."

 

My daughter wants to go to law school but the profession and the current American mindset on liability needs to change. The thought of winning LOTTERY type settlements has to go away.

 

We have had one Patrol camping trip in our Troop in recent memeory. Three kids went and three came back and they had a great time.

 

No attorneys needed for that outing. Problem is they rule both major political parties with an iron fist wrapped around the soft parts of those who govern. Try changing that!

 

This needs to be fought at the highest level.

 

Would a weeklong Patrol leaders course solve the skill and safety question? I would like some scumbag lawyer to write the liability lecture and Kudu to write the rest of the training outline.

Our Troop stayed at Greenbelt in Maryland.

Google it.

There is even a Scout area or there was two years ago.

 

 

 

Air and Space is a must.

Tuesday evening Parade at the Marine Corps War Memorial(the Iwo Jima Monument).

The postal Museum is kind of cool.

 

good luck