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  1. A question regarding my sons Eagle project. The other day my son was working on his Eagle project which is building shelves for band instruments at a local school. His plan was to get lumber and build two shelves to add to an existing shelf. He got a little lucky in that the building our Troop meets in is being torn down due to its old age and our new space lacked enough room to hold all the shelving we had in our previous building so since a Scout is Thrifty, he asked the Troop if he could use some of the shelves that were going to be demolished with the building and taken to the land fill
  2. Eamon One difficulty we have here is that teh schools have forbidden the sale of snack foods from frundraisers of any kind due to the new federal rule no snack food in school. The school won't even permit take orders (a little over the top too). My employer does not permit selling fundraisers at the office so this has never been an option for my son since he was a Tiger. There are only 4 houses on our street, 3 on the connector and 4 on the main state highway. All have said no the last two years. We attempted going into town for "blitzes" of the developments only to be told "I've alr
  3. Actually our UC was at the meeting when the PLC presented and the boys of the Troop voted no on the sale. She told me she provided this info to the DC who still instructed to send the message to the Troop.
  4. What the UC informed me was that the DC gave her the message directly to give to the Troop. Yes, I did think well then we'll simply sell one case but my wiser better hafe and to borrow a phrase I've read many times on these forums "she who msut be obeyed", we can simply buy the three way tin we were going to buy from the Pack from our son in the Troop so the Troop sold popcorn. Now that being said last year the council attempted to assign expected sales levels until at the opening popcorn meeting all the Troops and Packs balked at this. It would be interesting to see what would be the
  5. Fscouter The Troop does support the council. We have attended every council event which by the way always involves an additional charge for event insurance as well as a high entry usually $20.00-$25.00 per attendee without meals by the way. Participate in FOS, and attend week long summer at the councils camp. We also camp several times during the year at the council camp and pay the site fee of $20.00 plus an entry fee of $2.00 per person so the Troop is supporting the council and the boys know this and yes this was explained to them when they made their decision. Therefore, I believe
  6. Greetings fellow Scouters Another fine year of Scouting has begun, so I thought. I was informed last night by our unit comissioner that the boys decision not to participate in popcorn sales this year is not being looked at well by council. That if they choose not to sell popcorn then any unit fundraising applicaitions the Troop submits will have a very difficult time gaining approval from council. I can only take this one way, sell popcorn or the Troops other fundraisers will not be approved. This amounts to blackmail in my opinion. I also think that the boys in boy led Troop, a
  7. NS campout is already in the Troop plan for April since some Packs in our area do not cross Webelos over till mid March. We'll receive three others from a Pack that holds it BG in March. The ones coming this month are from our CO's Pack. I orginally thought of the hike as well but have done that for the past couple of years with varying results. I'm looking for something new and innovative but the hike isn't out of the question especially since we have an 1800 acre state wildlife management area in our county close.
  8. Will be getting 5 perhaps 8 new webelos at the end of the month. Since we are participating in the districts MB fair which is two Saturdays in Feb and 1 the first WE in March. The Troop didn't plan an outdoor activity for March. Would like to get these new Webelos out for something any ideas?
  9. Well I recently lost a boy and a good ASM to a MB @ Troop meetings Troop. Dad had been on me since the Troop started to do this but I've stood my ground. However, I have 4 boys who are in the school band including my own. One meeting the boys wanted to discuss the MB program I thought cool they're getting it. They were looking over the poster of MB's and picking ones they were interested in by looking in the requirements book. These guys came across music and noticed that they pretty much had completed the requirements from their participation in band. They asked if they could work on mu
  10. Hey Eagle "We'll be talking about something we're going to do, and they'll start thumbing through the advancement book looking for a MB to apply something to. I ask them (and am now asking you), "Why does everything have to tie to a MB? Can't we just do something because it's right, good, fun or simpy needed?". I'm not trying to grind out the MB's just trying to get some info to show the boys that sometimes there are benifits to simply doing a job and gaining experience and how if they look they have many times completed requriments without actually realizing it. Make sense?
  11. We need a Troop sign for uor building the boys will begin planing and working on it at this weeks meeting. What MB's if any, can they use the work they put into designing and making the sign be counted for?
  12. Reading between the lines I take these lads did not visit your troop or attend a boy scout outing with your troop for these two important AOL requirements. I'd casually ask them what interested them in your troop and not the troop/s they visited or participated in the outing with. Oh and by the way to earn AOL a boy does not have to earn all 20 activity pins just like to make Eagle a boy does not have to earn every merit badge. Do you not camp in the fall? We'd have about 6-10 nights by klondike in January in our troop.
  13. When I was a scout(back in the EVIL scouting era of the 70's. Troop 9, Old KY Home Council) we took a trip to Indiana that included exploring and camping in a cave overnight and next day tubing down a river. I can't remember where it was though but we started the float at the base of a "BIG" dam (well for a 13yo) and floated most of the day. It was one of the best trips I took as a Scout.
  14. Is anyone on this board connected with Troop 595, Sleeping Giant Distric, Pacific Harbors Council? One of you your Scout's families has relocated and the lad has joined out Troop so I thought we could get together and I could get his Troop master data from your Troop.
  15. Well went to the popcorn kick off last night and quota was changed to goal. Now here's the exciting part! The Troop last year sold $986.23 gross sales (only 3 Scouts participated) DE said "this year we want everyone to obtain 20% above last year and we've indicated your goal on your review sheets in your packets." Well doing the quick math in my head while he's handing out packets. I thougth OK a couple of hundred bucks more is probably attainable. I get my packet and we finally get to the spread sheet. The goal listed for our 6 boy Troop $4000.00! Once I got off the floor and got my bea
  16. Does it seem to anyone else that the sudden increase is Scout "accidents" boil down to not following training or the field, BS and SM handbook, and G2SS? I mean boys dieing for kicking logs in the river (leave no trace??), scout dieing due to falling off cliff, lost in woods, lost in wood (found thank god) all left without buddies. Adults pitching a tent under power lines? In the Navy when we had a rash of incidents we had a safety shut down to retrain and invetigate what went wrong. Perhaps BSA should do the same.
  17. Only my son in our troop likes to do skits. Most of my boys say "there stupid". They don't sing either. So it's a real challenge to get a skit either myself of my son can do. I'd much rather the boys do it than have to rely on a leader being present but that's how it goes. This year at SC we did an enpromptu skit titled "General Custer" involving myself as Custer my son as the trusty Colonel and our ASM as the punch. Custers looking over the battle field and ask tells the Colonel "Hmm doesn't look good. Cirlce the wagons." Colonel repeats "CIRCLE THE WAGONS". A few minutes later looking
  18. Gee from reading these posts I've suddenly realized that all of the boys in the Troop must have ADD! The often can't keep focused during meetings when we are doing a demo or providing instruction there usually are 4 out our 6 talking to each other staring off into space or just simply arent there. At times I've just stopped talking or doing the demo and just looked at them until they come around and I'll say "ok now the ice cream melted while you guys were in space so back to the topic." Believe more than one have said "ICE CREAM!!" Take a look at my post on my SC experience this year
  19. The insurance question has been raised many times at round table. Here is the explanation we've been given. The $1.00 we pay at registration covers us by national. The $1.00 per head at events (even charging it for our tour permits now) is for additional liability insurance the council supposedly takes out (haven't received any paperwork with coverage etc). Now having experience with insurance companines in the medical world the insurance paid at registration is secondary to your health plan and the additional (if it exists) would be tiertary to our insurance. I know they made a little mon
  20. Well they've never set even gaols previously and I've been involved since my son was a tiger and was cubmaster 3 yrs for the Pack. The we've always sold what we could and take our "cut" and run our program from that. We generally did well in Cubs clearing about $1000-$1500 per year. For the last 3 as a Troop we've been lucky to clear $400! Only one Wally world in the nearest town and four Troops there. Nothing in the country except farms several miles apart. We do our best fundraising with out spaghetti dinner and car washes at our CO than we ever have on popcorn.
  21. Received and intersting call from DC last night to remind me of the popcorn kick off tomorrow night. He mentioned new plans for this year one of which was unit quotas for sales. We've never had this before and expected amount mandated by council. We've have our targeted about for our Troop budget (which we have not met in the past 3 years now). We are a small rural Troop (pop 8,000) and can't compete with those units in the nearest town (pop 26,000). Also the majority of our district is rural as well so I'm sure there will be some units drop out of popcorn given this news. Although the D
  22. OK, since we seem to be discussing horror stories. Summer camp two weeks ago new scout attending. Mom had told me his history she's a state SW so adopted the lad who had been abused as a youth. As a result he has some developemental delays ("2nd grade reading level" I disagree I doubt he can read period) ADHD etc. We're packing up and she hads me his daily meds to which she informs me "make sure he takes it in the morning or your won't be able to live with him." Now being a nurse by trade I know something of ADHD and can certainly give the lad his meds on time and did. However, I'd hate
  23. This happened in our district this spring when we were getting camporee together. Council mandated a 20% contingency fee be placed in the budget which increased the per person rate (yeah even charged Scouters the same as Scouts and they aren't doing the events). When several of our rural Troops balked at the idea and the increased cost it was brought up by one SM to forgoe camporee and just all meet at a local farm that was made available and camp together. That's when this rule was brought to our attention. There were several "old goat" partolers that had never herd of this from coun
  24. Sad and tragic indeed. I wonder why on earth they were pitching a 20ft tent with metal poles directly under power lines(and what was the organizers of the jambo thinking by placing a them in the situation if that was all the space available) we teach our boys to look overhead first when selecting a site for what might fall on you. I have one Scout and ASM at the Jambo this year will be interesting to hear from them when they get back on what if any educational opportunity was taken from the tragic event. My heart felt sympathy and prayers to the scouters and their families.
  25. Sad and tragic indeed. I wonder why on earth they were pitching a 20ft tent with metal poles directly under power lines(and what was the organizers of the jambo thinking by placing a them in the situation if that was all the space available) we teach our boys to look overhead first when selecting a site for what might fall on you. I have one Scout and ASM at the Jambo this year will be interesting to hear from them when they get back on what if any educational opportunity was taken from the tragic event. My heart felt sympathy and prayers to the scouters and their families.
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