sailingpj

"I do have a bone to pick with yeh, though, codger. You are way too young to be callin' yourself a codger. "

I saw that and just had to respond. It is all relative Beavah. Compared to me 50 is really really old (don't tell my mom I said that). I think that Codger is just expecting to be on these forums for another 30 years so he is just being prepared.

This has absolutely nothing to do with scouting, but I thought that you all would love the great thing that this group did for these kids. Watch the video and you will understand.

The Sea Scout version of this requirement is written better IMO. It is also a more difficult requirement though.

"Recruit a new member for your ship and follow through until the new member is registered and formally admitted. (This requirement may be waived by the ship committee if additional membership is not possible at the time the Sea Scout applies.)"

"I was bullied a couple times in grade school and high school, and it didnt stop until I walked up to the instigator and punched him. Then it stopped cold. This was back in the 60s and 70s, and I realize this is not only discouraged these days, but considered to be as bad as the initial bullying itself."

In my school if you did this you are for sure going to get a week long suspension, but you are also probably going to get arrested. If you get into a fight you are considered an active participant if you throw the first punch, or if you hit them more than once.

My ship had a what I consider a sane policy, no texting at the meeting. The only reason we should see your phone is if you are talking to you ride, or your parents. We shouldn't see you headphone at all.

On cruises it was much the same. Everyone was told not to bring Ipods. If seen they would be help by the skipper for the duration of the cruise. If brought cell phones, cameras, and any other electronic device was your responsibility, and your problem if it drops in the water or disappears. Cell phones were allowed out during the evening as long as nothing else was happening. When you are on night watch the only electronic device that you are allowed to use is the flashlight, and your watch. You can't say that you were using your phone or Ipod for a clock because there are three other clocks spread around the boat. That is just for safety, we don't want someone listening to their music, or playing a game or something and not noticing that the anchor has come loose, or a dock line broke (both of which have happened to us).

We just want people to remember that there is a right time and place for your Ipod, or cell phone, and when you are driving the boat is neither the right time, or right place.

It was kind of funny. We had this one girl who was always texting, and she was also always losing her phone. On the trip home she set her phone down in the galley and left it there. Well, one of the officers and I decided that she should learn to keep better track of her stuff, so we picked it up and held on to it. It took her half an hour to figure out that it was lost again, then she spent almost an hour looking for it before we gave it back. I was with that ship for another month before I moved, and in that time she never lost her phone on the boat again.

In my old ship there were a bunch of people who went to the same school, so they set up a Sailing club at the school and used it to recruit for the Ship.

In most schools students are allowed to set up clubs, they just have to find a teacher willing to sponsor them.(This message has been edited by sailingpj)

scoutfish - I know what a background check is. My mom dated a guy who is a Captain. He has to have a background check done every few years, so every so often we have the people come around asking questions.

Having the background checks is one good way to prevent things from happening. While they can't catch someone who has never done anything, as you pointed out, they still make it more difficult for repeat offenders. The information in the background checks is very confidential. I am not even allowed in the room when the background check person is talking to my mom and I lived with the guy for several months.

Doesn't BSA do background checks on some people? These files sound like the records for people who didn't pass. Some disgruntled employee must be after what he or she thinks is easy money.

Dude, that was like awesome. You should totally add more.

If it is pie with Ice Cream you need something warm. My favorite would be coffee, black. If there is no Ice Cream then you need something cold, milk is good. Now, if the pie itself is cold then you need coffee no matter what.

The coffee has to be good coffee. Drinking any of that coffee that eats your stomach away just ruins the pie. You need coffee that is smooth. I personally love Costa Rican coffee. I also find that the coffee is best from a french press, but the beans have to be ground up perfectly. To fine and you end up with gritty coffee. To coarse and the coffee doesn't achieve it's full flavor.

A good capachino wouldn't be bad either, but it can't be watered down very much.

You don't necicarely need a GPS to geocach. You get the lat and long from the website, then you go get a map and do it old school. With a good map you should be just fine. I don't know about you, but I find chart plotting to be fun, and it is a great skill to have. You can get all the tools you need from a office supply store, then you just need the proper maps.

If I can plot the waypoint for the entrance to the harbor at Puerto Vallarta then you can find a geocach. Also, when someone does it wrong it is a great lesson in why it is important to be accurate.

Also, on the www.geocaching.com website it says they are the "The Official Global GPS Cache Hunt Site". That may be one of the reasons that they are the one you are supposed to use.(This message has been edited by sailingpj)

This has happened every weekend for the past month, and a few times during the week. There must be something happening on Saturday nights that is messing with the site.

"Pie la Mode:

Bait and switch, distraction, or beneficial teamwork? LOL!"

Definitely beneficial teamwork.

Let me just say,

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Peach pie

Apple pie, has to have vanilla ice cream.

Pumpkin pie

Pecan pie

walnut pie

As for the whole cheesecake is a pie theory, I personally disagree. I have made both cheesecake and pie many times, but while cheesecake has a crust, the preparation of said crust is very different. The ingredients are very different too. That is enough proof for me that a cheesecake is not a pie.

The only time my sea scout ship ever required a permission slip for an event was when we did safety at sea at the coast guard base, and I think it was the coast guard that required it.

I got the email from both of SCOUTER-Terry's posts, and the one from Twoeagles. It appears to be working again.

I forgot my hat once, my Skipper came up to me and asked me where it was. I started telling him that it was at home, he asked again, I described where in my room it was, he asked again, I told him exactly the circumstances that that lead to my hat being at home with me at the meeting. He said, "The answer I am looking for is 'I am sorry sir, it will not happen again', now where is your hat?" I never forgot my hat again.

Some people may say that that was too harsh, now I don't think so. He was merely teaching me a lesson. I learned that lesson very well. I was boatswain, and it was my responsibility to be a good example to the rest of the crew. Being in uniform is part of the job description, it is no different than working in a office where ties are part of the dress code and walking in one day with no tie. Or a job in a kitchen where you need a hairnet.

Unless you are someone like Adrian Monk who would go OCD on it, I think it would be difficult to put too much emphasis on the uniform. Yes, there are special circumstances where it is difficult for some families to get the uniform, but those can usually be worked out and there is no reason not to expect someone to wear the uniform to a event. Plus the definition of a special circumstance is something that is not the norm. I am one of those people, I just moved and joined a new ship. I am going to have to get a new uniform. My new skipper knows that I will be getting one as soon as I get a job here. She also knows that I will continue to wear my old uniform to the meetings because that is what you are supposed to do. There wasn't much discussion about that second portion, it was just expected and understood.

It used to work for me, but recently it stopped working.

"If we really do believe in living by the golden rule? How would we feel if we were being discriminated against?"

Eamonn said this in a previous thread and it set me down a train of thought that I thought might interest you all.

I think that there are places where people who are a part the BSA are discriminated against. That is especially evident in the school system. In my old school I would never have admitted that I was a Sea Scout and part of the BSA for fear of getting beaten to a pulp. There were times where I would wear one set of clothes on the way to our meetings, then change clothes in the car before heading inside because we were going to be making a stop or two on the way. It is not the adults who do this, it is the other teens, but the attitude has to be coming from somewhere.

The schools one town over wouldn't allow you to even talk about the Boy Scouts on the school property. I believe they made that rule because of the Gay thing. Though they also banned the girl scouts too I think.

There were not really any scout troops, ships, packs, or crews on my side of the river. Once in a while one would pop up for a while then disappear again. If you wanted to join one of the above you had to cross the bridge ($4 toll), and that put a lot of people off.

So yes, I think that in places Scouts are discriminated against, and like I said I think a lot of it is in the school system. It is dangerous to be known as a scout in some schools.

You know funnily enough those who would cause bodily harm to a scout consider scouts to be gay.

'"We also used what we called a "Docking knot" which isn't a knot but a constantly inverted loop over a dock bolister to keep a boat from drifting away."

Yah, hmmm... I think yeh mean a cleat hitch, eh? But yeh don't constantly invert it.'

That knot is why I despise having other people help tie up my boat. Many of them do that five or ten times then it takes forever to untie it and do it right.

Now my favorite knot has to be the overhand knot. Even though I never use it on its own, it is the first knot I teach when doing a knot class. Everyone thinks that knots are going to be really hard, then you show them that they see that knots aren't that hard after all, many of them are based on the overhand.

504 Gateway Time-out

nginx/0.8.33

That is what I have been getting for the past couple days. It happened at the begining of the week for 24 hours, then was ok for 48 hours, then wasn't working until sometime today.

"Let's remember here that the human brain does not analyze potential long-term consequences of decisions until the mid-20's."

I'm sorry, but that is a blanket statement that simply doesn't apply to everyone. I am 16 and I have been analyzing the potential long-term consequences of my decisions for a while now. Many of my friends also think in the long term. I am tired of all teenagers getting a bad rap from people saying things like this. That applies to the jet skis too. I am sure there are plenty of good safe jet skiers. I have met a few of them, but they all get a bad name because the jet ski is a popular vessel for the inexperienced to take out. That is mainly because it is simple to operate when compared to many other kinds of boats.

I personally don't like jet skiers. Some of them have caused a good bit of trouble for me. Two of them stopped in front of our boat (48 foot sailboat, 6 foot draft, full keel, doesn't make rapid turns) and started talking to each other. We were on a river and because of the other traffic we were forced out of the channel and had to wait a couple hours for the tide to raise so we could get off the mud.

As for them at a summer camp, that is not a good idea. There are many safer and more fun activities than a jet ski. Just buy some lasers. You can get new ones fully loaded for less than $6000 each. You can learn a lot about the finer points of sailing on a laser. I have yet to experience a greater rush than when just a little up from a beam reach in 30kts.

A couple people mentioned the Mariner Scouts. They are still active in our area. The boat my ship uses used to be theirs. They occasionally come to one of our biggest regattas, but other than that we don't see them much. Our officers mention them from time to time though.

We have a few all girl ships in our area, but a distinction is always made between them and the Mariners.

At a event a month or so ago there was a boatswains meeting run by Keith Christopher, he said that there are 6,700 and something Sea Scouts.

"There are three programs in BSA and one of them is Venturing."

Don't forget that Sea Scouts is it's own program, has it's own awards and events. We have our own names for everything/one, we have our own advancement. If that doesn't qualify us to be called our own program I don't know what does. It seems that Sea Scouts is constantly getting buried under Venturing. On the National website, on council websites. There is very little about Sea Scouts. So don't forget, we exist, and have a great program.

That sentence up top should be changed to

"There are four programs in BSA and one of them is Venturing."