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  1. If you honestly think it's about oil, you're seriously deceived. I guess Haliburton should recuse themselves from a possible contact (that is for infrastructure rebuilding, not "oil concessions") because Cheney WAS employed by them before he was VP?
  2. Jeep Grand Cherokee with lift and winch (comes in handy when setting up gateways with LARGE logs. Front Seat Area - Bottled water under the seats, maps of NJ, PA, NY & DE (road and topo). First Aid kit, North Face tent. Back seat area - extra sweatshirt, scoutmaster handbook, scout handbook (sons), Rope, first aid kit under one seat with ponchos and emergency food kit (energy bars, water purification tablets, etc.) Behind back seat area - 2 burner stove, propane tank (small one) winch kit with extra rope, slings & couplers, flags (U.S. and Troop), one scout's pair of
  3. Does it matter that boys learn values while playing games or that boys play games in order to learn values as long as the end result is that they learn the values that Scouting is trying to teach?
  5. per ASM1 This is EXACTLY what I mean folks by volunteers quoting policy as they see it and trying desperately to implement it into actual policy. Consult your council folks when in doubt. Our district is full of these thinking folks who wish to impose their ideals of scouting. Council hold the rules, the rest is just a volunteer opinion. ASM1 Read the policy - if you think the BSA endorses your smoking in front of a scout, you're full of it. As far as me trying "desperately" to make policy, I read the policies and when they are not crystal clear, I ask Council for guide
  6. Ed, how is this unclear: "Adult leaders....may not allow the use of tobacco products at any BSA activity involving youth participants." Does it say "prohibited" as in the preceeding para. in the G2SS? No, but "may not allow" is just as clear. You may not allow this whether you like it or not. If your council, district or troop allows it, they are in violation of the G2SS. I'm not an anti-smoking nazi, but the rules are very clear. I maintain that there is only one conceivable interpretation. YIS (scouting, not smoking ) Quixote
  7. 1. Tigers do not belong in Wolf dens earning Wolf badges, they belong with other Tigers doing Tiger things. If the parents don't want the younger brother in the Tiger Den, then he shouldn't be in Cub Scouts. 2. The COR is the person that needs to get involved here - he/she is the only one that can replace the Committee Chair. The UC doesn't have that much authority, i don't think. How did the boys get assigned to dens earlier in the year? Did the Cubmaster do it, or was the CC in on it? If the CC was in on it, I understand how she could feel that you went behind her back to get
  8. ASM1 "posts" Um, that quote was from a press release I posted here. I never said any of the words YOU say is a quote from me. Someone is not paying attention. You think US news agencies are open? And I don't need to buy a clue, I have plenty. My apologies for misstating what you "posted". I hope i am safe to assume that since you "posted" the press release here, you agree with it. Either way, it is hogwash. As for buying clues, maybe I need to stop by the store and pick some up too. I believe the U.S. news agencies, while somewhat ostrich-like in their view of world events, a
  9. ASM1 says RUN.....the black Exxon helicopters are coming. Aliens are controlling the president and his chief of staff. ASM, How do you know where Youngblood is getting his info? As for the U.S. press not being independent, please buy a clue.
  10. The unasked for, Quixote's interpretation of the Guide to Safe Scouting policy on Smoking, Toking & Boozin' The Boy Scouts of America prohibits the use of alcoholic beverages and controlled substances at encampments or activities on property owned and/or operated by the Boy Scouts of America, or at any activity involving participation of youth members. Explanation - NO DRUGS OR ALCOHOL - EVER on their property or any time there are youth participants. It is ok to have a meeting or dinner of ADULTS and have a beer (from the way it's written, even do drugs, as long as they aren't
  11. Boy Scouts of America Resolution WHEREAS, the Resolutions Committee of the Boy Scouts of America (on behalf of the Executive Board of the Boy Scouts of America) on June 1, 2001, assigned the Relationships Committee of the Boy Scouts of America with the responsibility for considering and making recommendations to the Executive Board with respect to various resolutions submitted by members of the National Council at the annual meeting concerning the appropriate flexibility to be employed by the Boy Scouts of America in establishing standards for leadership; and WHEREAS, the Relations
  12. kwc - i hear you and understand what you're saying, but there are KNOWN weapons of mass destruction that Iraq was to have destroyed and according to their report to the UN, they haven't. It is not a case of going in, kickin' butt and not finding anything. If they aren't there, show the inspectors the documentation and paper trail indicating their destruction. Iraq refuses to do that - WHY? the only conceivable reason is that they have NOT destroyed the weapons that the UN KNOWS they have. Is it possible that there is a "smoking gun", but to reveal the source to the world would endange
  13. Per kwc "The problem that many people are struggling with is the US becoming an agressor nation. We have responded when we have been attacked or one of our allies has been attacked. Think Pearl Harbor, Kuwait, 9/11, etc." Per the Wolfowitz speech," There are also gaps in accounting for such deadly items as 1.5 tons of the nerve gas VX, 550 mustard-filled artillery shells, and 400 biological weapons-capable aerial bombs that the U.N. Special Commission concluded in 1999 -- and this is the U.N.'s conclusion -- Iraq had failed to account for" Do you prefer that we wait till there is evi
  14. I think that even at that age, they wouldn't mind repeating EXACTLY what they did the year before - my 5 year old can't even remember what he did earlier in the day, let alone a year ago. My youngest son has wanted to be a scout since he was 3 and has a pack t-shirt as well as an old hat and neckerchief that he wears on regular occasions - such as yesterday (with shorts) and pretends to have scout meetings just like big brother. He will go to the Pack Pinewood Derby this week as well and race a car with his brother (in the judges division - the Pack uses the Troop to provide judges for t
  15. lv - you're very correct, it has been VERY cold of late and the need is great. The local shelters have gone from an average of 50 beds per night to over 200 with people sleeping in chairs. Our church did a drive last week and we found over 5 coats in our house and some blankets, etc. that were on the top shelf - there no longer. Please remember that your kids outgrow their clothes on a regular basis and there are homeless and needy children as well.
  16. Are patrols required to file Trip Permits with Council before a patrol outing?
  17. littlebillie, your statement "if those are the good ol' boys of the Klan, then the FBI should never have infiltrated..." is more than a little insulting. BSA may not be as open to all as you would have it, but to compare it to the KKK is ridiculous. As far as having a homosexual man as a role model for a confused and possibly homosexual boy, you logic stopped there. If you were to truly believe that homosexuality is such a bad thing, I seriously doubt you would advocate said boy to be around a homosexual man for guidance. kwc - tj told "in confidence" a scout exec. - that is a
  18. sctmom, Although i find myself on the other side of the policy regarding homosexuals, I RESPECT your position and do not consider YOU to be offensive and bigoted, just your statement.
  19. There's a U.S. Military Academy camporee each year @ West Point. This may be what you're thinking about. There is a waiting list to go.
  20. kwc, First, thanks for the definitions - don't know what i'd do without my trusty little on-line dictionary here (j/k). Believe me when i say that I did in fact read your entire post (several times) and while i may be guilty of having a splinter in my eye concerning my side of the argument, might i point out that (to use a biblical analogy) there is a log in yours? (it's all perspective isn't it?) After several readings, it appears that you are interpreting the last paragraph and "ASSUMING" where it says specifically that if you tell a person of official capacity, it "cannot be
  21. kwc, Your post said it better than I could have: "Conversations, correspondence, and statements with or to the Bishop, District Superintendents, Board of Ordained Ministry (and its committees and officers), and district Committees on Ordained Ministry (and their committees and officers) cannot be assumed to be private and confidential." By your example above and tj's admission that he has informed at least one SCOUT EXEC., (who, i would argue are in similar positions of responsibility as those identified above), he is an avowed homosexual as far as the BSA is concerned and as su
  22. And i always thought it was the right wing conspiracy theorists that thought the government was trying to track their movements and control their activities. It really is circular, aint it? The FAR left and the FAR right both think the revenuers are out to get 'em. ASM - that is one WEIRD troop you describe. PRAYING TO GEORGE BUSH???!!! Man, i'm a registered republican, from Texas and voted for his old man against Reagan in the primaries in '80 and I ain't THAT far gone! Maybe you could volunteer to be the RT chaplain???
  23. Goodbye, goodluck, enjoy your life. As for as your statements concerning bigotry and intolerance goes, it is unwarranted and uncalled for.
  24. kwc, friend or not, confidant or not, IF tj informed a SCOUT EXECUTIVE that he was a homosexual, that SCOUT EXECUTIVE has a DUTY to abide by the policies and procedures of the BSA. If he has informed a BSA employee or scout executive, he, as far as the BSA is concerned, is an avowed homosexual and subject to removal from his leadership position. NJ - please help out here - if i tell the local counstable "in confidence" that i committed a crime, can not that "confession" be used against me in court? (Assuming i have been "read my rights") How can you tell someone as a frien
  25. kwc, I have read the definition of avowed, thank you. As a matter of fact, i had originally included the definition from www.merriam-webster.com in my post, but since you had already posted it, i deleted it from my response. As far as reading the definition, perhaps you can read my entire response where i allowed that while tj may not meet the ENTIRE defintion, he has at least gone up to the line by tellling SCOUTERS. I am fully aware that words have meanings - that was my point.
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