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  1. tnx - I've seen and have all similar words for our Eagle COH. My main topic and subject of the discussion, is where all of these texts tend to mix the title words, and therefore it becomes very difficult to track which words go with which content. ie - You call it your Charge - but use "I challenge" in the text. Also - the Eagle Scout "swearing in" you call the "pledge" which now makes it a count of 3 - Promise, Oath, Pledge... All in all - it's hard to reconcile what is meant by reviewing past program handouts (not the full script) where you have one line entry for the ceremo
  2. I've been going over our troop's past Eagle COH docs and also have browsed the web looking for info to reconcile some wording conflicts.... Challenge vs Charge vs Promise vs Oath Eagle Scout Challenge - 5 obligations listed in text - this appears to be distributed with Eagle Award packets BSA 58-900, but I've never seen one in person.... is it actually printed and referenced as "The Eagle Scout Challenge" ? Eagle Scout Charge - some intro text followed by the Promise/Oath... just local text ? Eagle Scout Promise/Oath - which to call it ? I guess the biggest confusion cam
  3. well - as I've been told - The "SCOUT" ends at age 18... along with the "Scout version" of the uniform... with rank patches, MB sash, etc My entire point is that regarding Scouts who are 18yrs old... or recently older... Therefore, his "uniform" could be that of an adult leader, which of course is a "uniform", but the entire presentation is totally different.... knots vs patches, no sash, etc Again - at a COH, especially an ECOH, what's the "rule" for scouts over 18 ? Scouting is probably the only organization where you can't wear your old uniform as part of your herit
  4. We've had several of these cases, Eagle Scout Ceremony with scouts that are 18, and in my opinion - I don't agree with the decisions regarding not wearing of the uniform... The Eagle ceremony is the classic opportunity to showcase what scouting is all about. To have an 18yr old Eagle Scout standing up front, in full uniform makes a powerful statement. To have these young men "dress-down" to a common suit does nothing to stimulate the other scouts in the audience, as well as the the other invited guests.... In my opnion, Scouting does itself a major dis-service to not have
  5. We just started working with our older scouts (Crew) with regard to them getting their Scuba Open Water certification. Here is a Scuba forum, that has an area for discussing Scouting & Scuba http://www.scubaboard.com/forumdisplay.php?f=204
  6. We have been using Troopmaster for awhile, and last summer upgraded to the Troopmaster 2005. We usually created a backup and emailed it around to the necessary adults. This last fall we added the DotNet option, which is basically a remote file "checkin-checkout" storage area for downloading & uploading the Troopmaster database backup file. Anyway - we also discovered the vendor has a discussion forum which you might find helpful. http://forum.troopmaster.com/
  7. we use the printout from Troopmaster for the MB's vs hand writing them on an advancement form. This was regarding two advancement forms for: Eagle Palm (her son) First Class (her son)
  8. I wonder why there is a signature line with a line for "title". The Advancement Committee book - #33088D - on page 29 lists the basic reqs of a BOR which has from 3 to 6 members of the Troop Committee.... not just available parents. Yeah - it's counter-producttive, but that's the black and white.
  9. Quick questions on the classical BOR - I was elected to pick up the awards for our upcoming COH. One thing that came up at the Scout Store was the signature on the Advancement Forms was of a mom of a Scout. http://www.scouting.org/forms/34403.pdf Ok - review & comment time.... (1) We have the same person acting as BOR chair, sorta like a position on the committee. Does this "position" actually exist ? She thought she had to sign every advancement form on the left line where is asks for "title". (2) She signs all the advancement forms, a
  10. Was at the scout store today, and I guess with all the structured scouting forms, these are just messed up a little - Mile Swim - no app, have card & patch Snorkeling - app, card, patch Scuba - app, no card, but have patch So - for Mile Swim - present card, get patch Also - since nothing is available to hand in, they suggested adding the names to the advancement form...
  11. We have our COH coming up, and will be presenting a few extra aquatics awards from summer camp - BSA Mile Swim BSA Snorkeling BSA Scuba The Mile Swim folks already have their card. The Snorkeling folks already have their card. The Scuba folks have a paper form. So - for consistency, to get their cards and patches, I went looking for the application forms for all three.... I could not find an application form for the Mile Swim, only the other 2 awards. Is there an application form for Mile Swim ?
  12. here's an update on our 14 yr old Scout... who has gone to JLTC, wanted to staff at JLTC, but had a conflict with Jamboree, and melted at Jambo 2005 - Here is an email that was exchanged within our Troop. -- He has had over a year to work on 2 MB's + Eagle Project. Much to my disappointment, I think he has succumb to the 14+ syndrome. You reach that point where you have achieved First Class, and all the MB's that are served up on a platter via troop or MBU clinics, but still need some things on your own.... but have never done that on your own. Also - there i
  13. Nope - he actually worked for and received all the blue/red 2005 rockers to go around his youth jambo 2005 patch. These he found while walking - they are "vertical" with a very slightly concave top as if to be fan'd out, or bottom round, from a central round patch.
  14. our scout came home from the Jamboree with a couple of small vertical segments/rockers that we can't identify.... Any ideas on what they are ?? They are vertical strips about 1/4" wide and 1" long - with these words : Passport Search Patrol Flags Conservation Good Turn Patrol Challenge Arena Show
  15. hey, I don't mind - I like patches but in this case... there's no room to put the POR patch ! like SPL, ASPL, PL, or SM, ASM, etc -
  16. just an update on our personal situation and observation.... Our Scout is 14, Life, and was involved with NYLT staff, Jamboree, along with being SPL, ASPL, along the way. Well, this month (May 2005) was just too much and he has basically turned off Scouting. The JYLT/NYLT had 2 campouts, and the Jamboree had 1 (same weekend as NYLT), along with other things going on. He had not been to a Troop meeting in weeks, as his Track team had their meets on the same night as the Troop meetings. So, he finally just said enough... this month... He QUIT the NYLT as a staff member. He QUIT go
  17. yeah... when I was a Scout, we had so much more in the Scouting Handbook - now, it's so watered down and so many old skills have been stripped out that the Scouts don't even know these other topics even existed... Also, in todays world, I guess many of those topics were tagged as obsolete. Morse, signalling, tracking, trail signs, etc - Today - if you want a random chat with a person, try a chat room, or even a VoIP phone call like on Skype, or any of the IM services. And yeah, they have FRS radios, so a walkie-talkie (HT) is no big deal anymore. And video, same deal as a webcam now, camer
  18. ok..... When did the "let's get bigger" start Instead of using the standard size CSP, ours (and others) have adopted a taller 3" JSP. And to sew below that, our troop numbers, also have a design which doubles the normal height from just having numbers, to having numbers + a graphic which makes this patch also 3" in height.
  19. I've posted several different threads here over the past couple of frustrating years. They pretty much chronicle our failing vision of what has become Scouting. As I've mentioned, we have a 14yr old Life Scout with 2 MB's + project left for Eagle... and he has been: SPL, ASPL, PL, and is now the Scout QM, along with being the only Troop Scout to be heading to Jamboree and also to JLTC/NYLT Staff for 2005. He is also in OA, and on Track, Soccer, and Swim Teams. So - he has reached a final plateau in the Troop. There are about 20+ Life ghost scouts on the Troop Roster that have not been se
  20. the more important issue - is getting past the airport security checkpoint... we started another thread for that topic.
  21. Every April, Geocachers around the world get together and clean up their local parks. It's just one way we can contribute to the maintenance of our outdoor spaces and to say "thanks" to the land managers that help to make our parks a great place for Geocaching. Learn about how you can start your own CITO event, or just how you and your family can CITO every time you go geocaching. This year, Trimble has partnered with Groundspeak to help sponsor Cache In Trash Out Day. http://www.geocaching.com/ Trimble Outdoors has 3 GPS related items for a general user - 1 - GPS softwa
  22. In looking over some Scouting and related websites, I was curious what screen size folks are mostly using ? Anyway, was wondering what folks are using, and do they run full-screen browser, or reduced ? Here's my grouping - Dell desktop - 800x600 Dell laptop - 1024 x 768 Toshiba laptop - 800x600 IBM thinkpad - 1024x768
  23. here's the link for US passports - http://travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html I'm debating getting our 14yr old Jamboree scout a passport for $87 and waiting the 6-8weeks, or just going to our local driver's license station for a State of Illinois issued photo ID for $20 all on the same day at the DMV... http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/drivers/idcards.html
  24. tnx - that did it !! I'll have to remember that for when the usual 30 vs 31 offset happens -
  25. > Trimble now has an online forum for their Nextel GPS software and Trip > Planner - > http://www.trimbleoutdoors.com/forums/ > > Also - the website now properly displays Trip photo icons using the Firefox web broswer. > > > For those that might be interesting in an operational GPS phone, > > with a normal readout, along with some new desktop software.... > > > > I have been working with a Nextel i860 camera phone > > and the Trimble Outdoors GPS software. > > http://www.trimbleoutdoors.com/aboutsilver.aspx > >
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