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mbrown, I am guessing your eldest son is looking forward to certain MOS activities? We drew 6th session at HRB. (sigh) Middle son and youngest son are on staff again, and have been at HRB since last week. Youngest son (19) posted the following status on his Facebook yesterday (they go to Scott's for wifi): "I bunk with (insects) and (spiders), the showers only go scalding hot or cold as ice, and I have worked and trained nonstop for 5 days. And most importantly, I'm home! Man I've missed it... Shout out to all of the campers and staff of H. Roe Bartle Scout Reservation!" R

If it is interpreted as the first definition, then the district nominations are only open to the current district committee. This could lead to the district being run by the same clique year after year. Yes, it certainly could lead to that. Excerpt from a post dated 2/7/2008: "District committees composed entirely of members-at-large may become myopic, self-perpetuating good-old-boy organisms that are not attuned to the needs/wants/desires of the units the committee is charged with supporting. The annual election process becomes farcical when the only attending, voting members

Sirs: I called National today. Annual Charter Agreement #524-182 is the current boilerplate document printed by the Boy Scouts of America. The annual charter agreement is an agreement between the local council and the chartering organization. Once the local council and the chartering organization are in agreement, the local council recommends a charter be issued to the organization. The Boy Scouts of America then issues the charter. The local council may use the boilerplate document, or the local Council Executive Committee may draft their own annual charter agreement as lo

Thank you for pointing this out, sir. I must reconsider my position, and, in doing so, feel that I will be much closer to understanding. How about this- The annual charter agreement, such as form 524-182, is an agreement between the local council and the chartering organization. Once the local council and the chartering organization are in agreement, the local council recommends a charter be issued to the organization. The Boy Scouts of America issues the charter. The local council may use a standardized annual charter agreement, such as form 524-182, or the local council may

Click23: Sir, let me say first that I agree with you. I believe the agreement to be between the local Council and the chartering organization. I wrote the same thing yesterday then deleted it. The annual charter agreement also states "The Boy Scouts of America is an educational resource program. It charters community or religious organizations or groups to use Scouting as part of their service to their own members, as well as the community at large." If the pronoun it refers to the Boy Scouts of America, one might think that the charter comes from the Boy Scouts of America.

Is a District an entity unto itself? IMHO, this is something of a tricky question. If we define an entity as something that has a distinct, separate existence (not necessarily a material existence), then a District may be viewed as an entity. A District is not entitative, however. A District does not exist apart from attendant circumstances. Districts are administrative subdivisions of the local council and do not have a separate corporate status. Regards, Axeman CR/UC

In my previous post I should have written "our present charter agreement includes, word-for-word, the changes noted by click23." AFAIK, the Annual Charter Agreement No. 524-182 (2009 printing) is the most recent agreement between the council and the chartered organization to operate a pack, troop, or crew. I can not say with certainty that this is the agreement currently available from the National Distribution Center. I can say that I easily found five different versions of the annual charter agreement on the internet: No.28-182L, No.28-182Q, No.28-182R, No.28-182S, and No.524-182. Al

I pulled our charter agreement from 2007. Our 2007 charter agreement (No. 28-182Q) is a different document. The 2008-to-present charter agreements include, word-for-word, the changes noted by click23. The newer documents also feature Council-specific image and text. Curiouser and curiouser. I will ask our DE about it. Regards, Axeman CR/UC

I have 2009's Annual Charter Agreement in my desk and it reads the same. IIRC, the charter agreement changed from the previous format to the current format in 2008. Regards, Axeman CR/UC

My ticket-completion counseling session was on Jan. 5, 2010. I received my WB recognition items on March 2, 2010. The date on the certificate is Feb. 1, 2010. Regards, Axeman CR/UC

I am not in John's district. My district adjoins John's district. In our council, wearing district insignia is common. I do not think it is a matter of instruction. I think it is a convention in our council, like wearing Mic-O-Say and OA lanyards. Personally, I do not wear district insignia. Regards, Axeman CR/UC

I realized that my previous post was itself an excerpt. Oops. Charter and Bylaws of the Boy Scouts of America Article IX, Policies and Definitions Section 1 Declaration of Religious Principle Policies Clause 1. The Boy Scouts of America maintains that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God. In the first part of the Scout Oath or Promise the member declares, "On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law." The recognition of God as the ruling and leading power in the universe

An excerpt from the Declaration of Religious Principle appears on adult applications. Why an excerpt instead of the full text of the DRP? Charter and Bylaws of the Boy Scouts of America Article IX, Policies and Definitions Section 1 Declaration of Religious Principle Clause 1. The Boy Scouts of America maintains that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God. In the first part of the Scout Oath or Promise the member declares, "On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law." The recogn

I'm sure it was just a little mix-up, no big deal. Yesterday it felt like a bucket of cold water to the face; today I'm very embarrassed to have written the post. It was hochmut. Not my finest hour. Thank you all! Axeman CR/UC I used to be a Beaver...

I guess this means I completed the course, so I'll just go with what Twocub said and consider it a win. Thanks!

After working my Wood Badge ticket for 15 months I had my Beading Ceremony last night! It was a such a unique experience I thought I would share: Last night was our District commissioners meeting & Roundtable. The commissioners meet @ 6:30 PM, followed by Roundtable @ 7:30 PM. I'm in the commissioners meeting, listening to the Dist. Commish talk, taking notes, etc. The District Committee Chair is wandering around passing out our 2010 membership cards, and one of our Dist. Executives was meandering about distributing various paperwork (training bulletins and other stuff). As t

Just a thought, your mileage may vary: Instead of inviting CORs to the district committee meetings (yawn), convince the district commissioner to invite the CORs to the monthly commissioners meetings. In my district, the commissioners meeting is conducted right before our monthly Roundtable. The information presented at the commissioners meeting is relevant, useful, and timely. There is also a different vibe at the commissioners meeting; there is a sense of camaraderie. People actually seem to enjoy attending. In my district, meetings of the district committee consist of sub commi

"So does he or she wear the Silver or Green?" I wear the loops appropriate to the position patch I am currently wearing. I am registered in a Pack (blue), a Troop (red or green), and as a CR and UC (silver). Velcro is wonderful. Applied correctly, the position patch does not stand off the uniform noticeably. "If the COR wears silver tabs, wouldn't he also NOT wear a unit number?" Technically, the CR does not wear unit identification (numbers). Depends on how closely one wants to adhere to uniforming standards. For example, many scouters wear District insignia on their unifo

We have walked this trail before. We will arrive at the same destination. With the utmost respect toward those who disagree, I continue to believe that the COR is not a unit scouter. I offer the following references in support: Rules and Regulations of the Boy Scouts of America, Article VIII, Section 1, Clause 2: "Unit Scouters. All adult members registered with the unit, except the chartered organization representative who shall be considered a council Scouter." If the rules and regulations of the BSA say that the COR is "considered a council scouter," I believe that

BadenP: With respect, the COR is not a unit-level scouter. Rules and Regulations of the Boy Scouts of America, Article VI, Section 3, Clause 7: "In territory supervised by local councils, each chartered organization shall appoint a volunteer, other than the unit leader or assistant unit leader, as its chartered organization representative to represent it as a member of the district committee and as a voting member of the local council." Rules and Regulations of the Boy Scouts of America, Article VIII, Section 1, Clause 2: "Unit Scouters. All adult members registered

I was waiting for someone else to address this. My views on the subject (under a different username) resulted in a fair bit of trouble for me in my district and council. Once bitten, twice shy. ...my question is whether or not our experience is typical or atypical? Your experience is typical. Are charter orgs usually involved with their units(?) No. Is the chartered organization rep engaged with the unit? No. Do reps usually come to committee meetings or other unit events? No. Why? Because there is no expectation of performance from the CO & CR. YMMV

We had a staffer dressed in a monkey suit walking around camp on the second weekend, but she was only about 5'9" We were also required to include a 360 assessment.

an aside- now would be a good time to change your forum password, sir.