GNX Guy

Not sure what your getting at? In the thread I'm reading, the 3rd post by YOU says Seabadge is admin training. Administration of the program is covered in Sea Scout Officers Specialized training. If I have to spell it out, much of the class (SSOST)takes you through the Sea Scout Manual, how the program is to be delivered or you may use the word administered, etc, as I mentioned in my post #4. You later cut an pasted additional information from another source that I already knew.

Try reading again the 2nd to the last paragraph I wrote in my latest thread, and that too lines up with what I originally said in post #4.

Yup, SSOST was about administering the Sea Scout program, ie, advancement, delivering the program, trainings and a review of of other things in the Sea Scout manual.

The Seabadge Conference focuses on the details of Leadership issues as I detaled in the latest post.

Administration has to do with conducting affairs, delivering and yes, a hint of mgt. To further define mgt, would be the things I listed in the 2nd to the last paragraph in my latest post above which was covered in the Seabadge Conference along with a few other things.

I'm not sure what part you don't understand?

I brought this thread up and was going to give some feedback a bit earlier today when I returned from training, but had to run out to my men's hockey league game.

Well, I liked it, learned a bunch and WOULD do it again. I had a preconcieved notion that the Sea Scouters in general might be a bit "starched" boy was I wrong. A great bunch of guys and gals and I don't think I lauged so hard since I got back from Powder Horn. I was laughing so hard I had to use my inhaler.

This was the LARGEST Seabadge course on record. 48 participants. Usually it is limited to a max of 30 but I think I heard attendance is usually 25 - 30 with 4- 6 conferences per year.

Met Charles Holmes, The top Venturing / Sea Scout professional from Texas. I like that guy. Very candid. He wants to see a magazine for Venturing / Sea Scouts. He also gave us his direct email and phone number.

As I think I mentioned,the prerequisite training of "Sea Scout Officers Specialized training" was indeed a review of the Sea Scout manual.

The Seabadge Conference was indeed what I wrote about in an earlier post above. Leadership theory, with the 1st ever presented "Leave no Trace" for water activites. Discussed planning, team building, Marketing, recruiting, Leadership styles, and a few others.

You'd think the "knot" you earn would be the correct size to be worn along with all the other knots. Not so, it is huge. And that is why most of the scouters who earn this knot actually use the unofficial knot that is the proper size. Also earned a cool "Seabadge" badge to be worn above the right pocket and of course a certificate suitable for framing.

Youth and adults & staff will be registering using their ID number from their Scout ID Card.

Info is from a letter dated 1 Mar to all the Scout Execs.

As I stated above each person will register (and there will also be a $10.00 non-refundable application fee), you will print the confirmation and take it to your local council with a $100.00 deposit. Now, keep in mind, that your council will probably want more than that $100.00 as that $100.00 only is a deposit for the Jamboree fee, that they must turn in by Jan 31, 2009 to National. Your council will probably want a deposit of some amount to cover tour reservations, equipment etc. So I'd be willing to bet at least a $200 deposit will be required by many councils.

So yes, each person will register on their own. Not sure what coucils will do that already have troops filled and another youth tries to register via on line. Could be a problem for those councils that started collecting $$$ already. Council still has must approve all scouts attending

2010 Jamboree fee will be $795.00 per scout or leader

On line registration for youth, contingent adults, staff will all be on line with a $10.00 non-refundable fee. They will print thier confirmation and send it to the Council with a $100.00 deposit.

Registration will be activated in June

As Bob White pointed out, it appears Venturing is not on the priority list of the council. In my home council, right next to Bob Whites Council, our Venturing program is very weak at best. There are a few that are really trying to promote venturing within the council. We do have an active shooting crew, an active SCUBA Crew and 2 other fairly active crews that I know of. I think we might agree that many scoutmasters are reluctant to promote Venturing to the older boys in fear of loosing them. We are slowing working on that here.

As in Woodbadge, I think national should consider a natural transition from Cubs to Boy Scouts to Venturing at 14-15. I don't have the hard facts but I'd be willing to bet we could keep more of the older boys in scouts if they moved to a Venturing Crew.

Out West, (I took Powderhorn Training in Montana) I felt venturing to be considerably stronger in those councils. Maybe because of the terrain and environment. Ice climbing, mountain climbing hunting, etc.

I wonder if there is a youth protection violation somewhere in that photo????

Bob White hit the nail on the head. He "gets" to advance, what gives you or anyone the right to hold him back?

And as an advocate for special needs scouting I'm ashamed that I actually read that Leader in the BSA would actually say this under the context you did "I don't think I will ever have to worry about him becoming an Eagle" You've already let him down and setting him up for failure.

Have you ever been to leader training???? Have you read Advancment Committee Policies and Procedures starting on page 39? Have you read Scouting for Youth with Disabilities Manual?

What a pity

There are some trails that Training center participants are allowed to hike with their families. We went on the T-Rex Trail last summer and plan to do a few more this summer when attending.

Evmori,

But it IS ALWAYS an option. Have you heard of Ebay, check the Goodwill store, uniform bank at the Troop, distric or council level or try here,

http://euxnetwork.net/

or here

http://www.smscouting.org/site/uniform_exchange.htm

or here

http://mysite.verizon.net/hjlichtman/Resources/uniform_exchange.htm

Might be a good service or even an Eagle project for Scouts in your unit. Maybe funds from their scout account can offset the cost. I'm sure there are many other ways to get the boys into a uniform.

evmori,

FYI, the BSA does not sell Sea Scout uniforms. Ship members purchase their uniforms through the US Navy Exchange or the Navy resale system. Unit leader sends request stating they are authorized by the BSA to purchase such clothing for Sea Scout purposes along with their SSN to the Uniform Support Center's procurment Dept.

Will do on the photos.

I like the medicine bag idea.

No arrow "kits" for my WEBELOS. I wanted to do something special. Just finished hand making our arrow plaques. Red oak with a sun ray routed in, routered edges, stained, and polyurethaned, black brass plate with name, pack and date. Affixed a "real" American Indian arrow made by the Blackfeet Indian Tribe from Montana. (That I personally picked out on the reservation) No mail order stuff. Attached to the arrow are real feathers. Then instead of the old painting the stripes on the arrow thing, I purchased real wooden beads. A different shape bead for each rank / award and put them on a string to hang from the plaque. As a momento I also am giving them a real raccoon claw hung from a leather thong that they can wear around their neck or hang from their arrow of light plaque. The claws were also obtained from the Blackfeet Indian reservation in Montana when I was there last summer.

Each boy crossing over gets a neckerchief and slide, scout book, troop numbers and red appletes and a Troop hat.

So the official word from the BSA is 13 now for 2010 and not twelve? Or is it 13 or have completed the 7th grade + 1st class and 6 months in the troop.

Right on the money Oak Tree, but you got one thing wrong, it's not Bob, it's Bob White (two words)

I guess I also correct both you and I, it is actually called Seabadge Conference. Not Seabadge (one word) as you corrected me.

Although I did not ask what it was.......the course you describe must be a different Seabadge Conference I'm not aware of.

The course I asked about really does not have to do with advanced Ship administration. What you described is found in the Sea Scout Manual and found in the Sea Scout Officers Specialized Training, which is a prerequisite for the Seabadge Conference. The course I'll be taking has the primary goal similar to Wood Badge of leadership theory and practices and includes ways to improve motivational skills.

Now back to the question, anyone taken it? How was it?

Thanks

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Maybe I should have first asked if anyone has ever heard of it??????

I think the big issue is many do not actually understand the term "Tenure" and what is actually means.

Tenure is the term used for "holding something" and in our situation the leader is holding 1 specific leadership position within a single unit. If the leader is registered and holds 2 different leadership positions in two different units one would say they are holding 2 separate leadership tenures.

There really is nothing for the district to decide. They only need to understand what the term tenure really means.

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has anyone else taken it here?

How was it.

I'm interested in Sea Scouts myself and I'm heading to Sea Badge Training 1st week in March with the central region. Looking into to starting a SCUBA ship as Sea Scouting does not have to involve boats. In fact there are many land ships out there.

Actually this year national is trying something a bit different, a trial with I think 13 Councils. Leaders in key rolls, ie SM, ASM, UC's, CM, DL's etc will automatically receive an invitation in those 13 trial councils.

Just ask your DE to have your name added to the list that the registrar sends to Philmont in I think Oct or so.

I went last year and I'm going back again this year. Guess you don't need to ask if I thought it was worth it or if my wife or my 6 year old and 10 year old had fun.

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Only if the dens are in 2 different packs and they are registered in those 2 packs. 2 different positions 2 separate tenures. Different position in a different unit = different tenure. Tenure refers to one specific position

Yup, right next to Elk Grove

Nope, not a DPVC'er I'm from Three Fires.

That video was made for my Wood badge course C-20-06 In Des Plaines Valley Council. A great bunch of guys. There is actually 2 videos. The 2nd is "The Greatest Secret"