Eagle732

Did that earlier today with Pathfinding or Carpentry in the search box and came up with nothing.

I was too, totally! Seems like instead of spending money on race cars maybe they could hire someone to design a usable website. I liked the old one better, at least you could find things! Sound like a spin off for another thread.

Just talked to the Registrar from Baltimore, she said the historical merit badge program is up and running. She also advised me to go to Scouting.org for more information including the requirements. I've tried to find it but to no avail. Somebody please tell BSA their website is awful!

The Bald Eagle interviewed is clearly an immigrant from France. Other Bald Eagles have said that this French Eagle does not speak for the majority. A true American Bald Eagle is willing to fight for his country.

The point on the FOS money is well taken. At every FOS presentation I've been to it is always stated that this money helps the council's camp and that Scouts could not afford the full price of a week of summer camp without help from FOS. Now it seems the NE standards are that a camp needs to be self sufficient on fees alone. Maybe instead of FOS we should be raising money for FOC (Friends of Camp).

Many of our troops go to other council's camps but I've always advocated supporting our camp by attending it each year. I believe that if we don't support our camp we will loose it. Interesting is the fact that at the last camp meeting the council's camp director stated that the emphasis is to attract outside council troops to camp. I suggested that they make at least the same effort in attracting local units too.

I asked our council about registering as a MBC for these merit badges. They said that since I was already a registered Scouter I just needed to fill out an another adult app. and MB form and submit it. It would take effect as soon as it is received.

Yea, I knew there was a way to do it. Just didn't know it was for a limited amount of time, make sense though.

Correction on the spelling of the advancement guy from National's name, it is Michael Lovecchio.

How do you edit your posts?

Na, he's just the advancement guy from National.

Does anyone know or know of Michael Rebekeo (sp?) from the National?

So, when National makes a decision, they send it back to Council, correct?

When it's all said and done some will eat pie and some will eat crow.

Inert camping? That sound like a new Leave No Trace principle. Camp Inertly: Do not leave footprints, Do not leave an impression on the ground where your tent was, Do not touch, smell, or look at nature.

Do some of you really think this is a scam?

I had a long discussion with father and son and we seem to be back on track with this one. Hopefully! I've yet to find a boy that couldn't be turned around with the right incentive.

I see a new adult position "Parentmaster" . Maybe the new patch will be a cool 100th anniversary design!

NE-IV-88

My post then was:

"Tenderfoot through Life requirement states: "Demonstrate Scout spirit by living the Scout Oath (Promise) and Scout Law in your everyday life." The the Eagle requirement states: "Demonstrate that you live by the principles of the Scout Oath and Law in your daily life." My question is what's the difference between these two requirements?""

At that time I had two Eagle SMCs to do and was reviewing the requirements and noticed the difference in wording. Although I thought there was essentially no difference in the requirements I was wondering why they were worded differently. Both Scouts have since received their Eagle, both with high recommendations from their SM.

As I stated in my OP I am not in this position (having a Scout who I would refuse to sign off on for whatever reason).(This message has been edited by Eagle732)

What would it take for you as a SM to refuse to sign off on Scout Spirit and/or the Scoutmaster's Conference for Eagle?

At what point do you decide that a Scout is not going to be an Eagle in your troop?

Would you not sign off because of a lack of attendance? How about a Scout found forging a Merit Badge card?

I'd like to hear from anyone who has actually refused to sign off on Eagle.

Disclaimer: I am not in this position, this is just a topic for discussion.

I showed an actual picture of the Eagle patch to my son. He liked it and says he's determined to finish his Eagle project in time to get one. The actual pictures do look better than the concept drawings.

First, this method is something we are in the process of trying so I don't have all the answers. The purpose is to facilitate a smooth transition of new Scouts into the troop which is a big change for these guys coming from Cubs.

Here's the scenario:

8 Webs join in March, they form the NSP. They have a Troop Guide assigned to the patrol who becomes a temporary member and an ASM Advisor. They elect a PL, name the patrol, make a flag, come up with a cheer, etc. They work together on advancement, camp together as a patrol, and they're all friends from Cubs anyway. The end result by the time they finish Tenderfoot (before their first summer camp) is that most want to keep the patrol together. They form what we call "Unit Cohesion". A few leave, I had one case where a Scout just couldn't wait to get away from one of his old Web buddies, some want to join patrols that have older friends in them, but usually they want to stay. It shouldn't take more than 6 months to finish Tenderfoot and by that time they would have finished many 2nd Class requirements too.

Now to answer some of the questions:

Who populates the NSP?

We'll we seem to have a few new stragglers throughout the year so they go to the NSP. And hopefully we get new group of Scouts every year.

How do you start the process?

We started with a large group of new Scouts that came from one pack.

What happens when you only have 2-3 Scouts left?

Same thing we do with other patrols when their numbers get low. The PLC decides to disband the patrol and the remaining members choose another patrol. The PL needs to recruit for his patrol if the numbers start to fade and they don't want to be disbanded.

What happens to Scouts that are left behind (not advancing)?

No one would be left behind, if the members all want to go to other patrols after making Tenderfoot except one or two Scouts then after a reasonable amount of time and some individual advancement encouragement then they would be allowed to move. If a Scout hasn't made Tenderfoot in 6 months there's a larger problem that needs to be addressed.

Next year the process starts all over assuming there are enough (5 minimum) Scouts. Last years NSP is either a regular patrol by now or its members have moved to other patrols.

Hope this answers some of the questions.

BINGO! (No that's not it)

Ok so I forgot the admonition. I probably never understood it when it was whispered to me but I remember what it means. I've got the password to get into the OA "Jump Start" site. Where is it?

Well technically it was a recession, the worst recession in the last 60 years. It was from November 1973 to March 1975, where real GDP fell by 4.9 percent. I remember the gas lines, inflation, high interest rates, those were the good old days! And the Dukes of Hazzard first aired in '79.

I like you admonition (all-a-dook-a-haz-ar) but where can I find the proper pronunciation of the real admonition?

Hey Bklyn, That statement is a little rough isn't it? I think it was very inappropriate. Please review the 5th and 6th points of the Scout Law.