Tron Posted Monday at 12:35 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:35 AM This is the sort of stuff that causes scouts to quit as soon as they find something more satisfying and less stressful to spend their time on. With leadership maneuvering to set this scout up for failure this hard it is without a doubt a guarantee that this scout drops before this time next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armymutt Posted Monday at 01:24 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 01:24 AM 46 minutes ago, Tron said: This is the sort of stuff that causes scouts to quit as soon as they find something more satisfying and less stressful to spend their time on. With leadership maneuvering to set this scout up for failure this hard it is without a doubt a guarantee that this scout drops before this time next year. Well, I know this one won't drop - he's mine. I retired from the Army this month, so now dad has plenty of time to support him in Scouting. His best friend (who became his First Class requirement 10) also has a retired guardian, so they are hitting as many Scouting events, with or without the troop, as we can. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armymutt Posted Monday at 01:25 AM Author Share Posted Monday at 01:25 AM 3 hours ago, Eagle94-A1 said: Why cant they do the SMC prior to the BOR? In many units I have been in, that has been the case. I don't know. I told him to immediately hit up the SM for an SMC on Tuesday and then we'll try to knock out both BORs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tron Posted Monday at 03:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:19 PM 13 hours ago, Armymutt said: Well, I know this one won't drop - he's mine. I retired from the Army this month, so now dad has plenty of time to support him in Scouting. His best friend (who became his First Class requirement 10) also has a retired guardian, so they are hitting as many Scouting events, with or without the troop, as we can. So with your free time, and your buddies free time, it sounds like the perfect seed to start a takeover of the troop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armymutt Posted Monday at 03:47 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 03:47 PM 17 minutes ago, Tron said: So with your free time, and your buddies free time, it sounds like the perfect seed to start a takeover of the troop. Trying to light a spark, not take over. The problem is, the CC and the SM are married and the former SPL, now ASPL, is their son. There's a lot of undue command influence, as we would call it in the Army. I asked the SPL why we were having this drug talk again and was told "my mom said we had to have one". This summer, the SM said he was done at the end of the year. I volunteered for the job and he said he was staying on for another year. I watched this troop for a couple of years before we joined. They were very active - camping at least monthly. Things changed when the original SM left. Now we aren't even going camping in December as a troop - just a game day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HashTagScouts Posted Monday at 06:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:19 PM 16 hours ago, Armymutt said: I don't know. I told him to immediately hit up the SM for an SMC on Tuesday and then we'll try to knock out both BORs. I'd encourage your son to send an email tonight to the SM asking if he could take a few minutes of the his time to have the SMC tonight, and even an offer to meet prior to the meeting if the SM is available. Might get him farther with the SM, and removes the opportunity for the SM to use an excuse of he is feeling cornered that it is "last minute" (in his mind). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armymutt Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago On 12/1/2025 at 1:19 PM, HashTagScouts said: I'd encourage your son to send an email tonight to the SM asking if he could take a few minutes of the his time to have the SMC tonight, and even an offer to meet prior to the meeting if the SM is available. Might get him farther with the SM, and removes the opportunity for the SM to use an excuse of he is feeling cornered that it is "last minute" (in his mind). As expected, he has to wait until January. He was able to complete the Second Class BOR and First Class SM conference on Tuesday. Crappy situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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