evmori 11 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Bunch of yahoos? Wow! Is this a good thing? What's a yahoo? How many yahoos make a bunch? Is it good to be a yahoo? I wanna know cause the words have meaning, ya know! Ed Mori 1 Peter 4:10 Link to post Share on other sites
Fat Old Guy 11 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 " using the methods which were in common use by the Boy Scouts on June 15, 1916." Is BSA in violation of their charter since they are no longer using the methods that were in use in 1916? Link to post Share on other sites
Marty_Doyle 10 Posted February 24, 2004 Author Share Posted February 24, 2004 Ed, Ed, Ed. This is now the Philosophy and Literature Forum. Yahoo is from Gulliver's Travels, by Swift. Please catch up on the syllabus, because we are going to start on Atlas Shrugged by Rand next, which is supposed to be the most enlightening piece of literature since The Cave, by Plato. I personally liked Joyce's Ulysses best. And it is well known that Yahoos only travel in bunches. And there are the same number of Yahoos in a bunch as the number of Irishmen that can be fed from a bowl of boiled baby soup. (More Swift). Link to post Share on other sites
OldGreyEagle 5 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Marty, Marty, Marty, Wheeler double dared me to post the original charter, I was waiting for the traditional double dog dare before I was going to accomodate him. Now the universal flow of the ether is upset because you jumped my double dare. As a side note, you had the same site I would have used. Gee, imagine a scouting site with the original charter right out there for anyone to read, not secreted away, not hidden, in the open. I did develop a new mantra over the weekend God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change The courage to change those that I can And the wisdom to know the difference Link to post Share on other sites
OldGreyEagle 5 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 To be precise, the term Yahoo, (not a computer term) was used in Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels. Most people are familiar with the part with the Liliputians, but there ia also a section where Gulliver is the little "person" and of course the section where he meets up with a master race called "Houyhnhnm", these are horse like creatures, also in this land are Yahoos, these are creatures that bear a remarkable resemblance to humans.(This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle) Link to post Share on other sites
Marty_Doyle 10 Posted February 24, 2004 Author Share Posted February 24, 2004 OGE - sorry I jumped. I was afraid it was going to escalate to "triple dare ya" and "triple dog dare ya" (Christmas Story?). Maybe even "triple black dog dare ya". Mea culpa for disturbing the universal flow. Of course, one has to be careful with one's quotes. The Serenity Prayer could lead some to discuss twelve step programs, or others (of a philosophical bent) to quote either Reinhold Neibuhr or Boetius' "Consolatio Philosophiae", both of which have been cited as possible sources for the prayer.....(This message has been edited by Marty_Doyle) Link to post Share on other sites
WHEELER 10 Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Very funny guys but OGE in his response to the post of the Boy Scouts and the United Nations is quoting a mission statement, Boy Scout oath, Boy Scout law, and a vision statement. None of this is included in the Federal Charter. A purpose statement is but not the rest. The Federal Charter is just what the law requires to be submitted and is not the total package, nor the founding documents of any organization. This Federal Charter, though interesting, is not the complete picture. So we would like to know where OGE got his information and from what book printed when? Where is the mission and vision statement from? Link to post Share on other sites
OldGreyEagle 5 Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 http://www.scouting.org/legal/mission.html the BSA website? and who is "We"?(This message has been edited by OldGreyEagle) Link to post Share on other sites
Marty_Doyle 10 Posted February 25, 2004 Author Share Posted February 25, 2004 Those imbued with perfect knowledge and perfect virtue often speak in the royal imperative. No more quizzes OGE. I'm still researching "effeminancy", and trying to figure out why I need to know who Eunomia is without having met her sisters, Eirene and Dice. Kudos to my Webelos son who helped me with "eunomia". This is starting to feel like college all over again. Is effeminancy related to "nancy-boys", who Theodore Roosevelt wanted out of the Boy Scouts in the early 1900's?(This message has been edited by Marty_Doyle) Link to post Share on other sites
WHEELER 10 Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Your late to the debate Marty Doyle, look further down in the section you will find a post called On Effeminacy. Where are those period documents?(This message has been edited by WHEELER) Link to post Share on other sites
Bob White 20 Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Note to self: Remember to sign-in BEFORE you open a thread so that the "squelch poster" function is engaged. Wheeler, Wheeler, Wheeler I'm begging you buddy, get some training. Spend some time in the program as an adult. Doesn't Plato, or Socrates, or Aristotle, or any of the gang you run with have anything to say about the value of experience? Before you talk about what the Congressional Charter is or isn't you need some historical perspective. Why was the charter even needed? Why was congressed asked to recognize the scouting movement at all? Who benefited and how. Ask your philosopher pals and see if they know. Then, if you are ever in the area and want to actually have some idea about the program you are pontificating on call me. I have some trainers who can teach you a lot more about scouting than Plato can. Excuse me now while I go sign-in. Link to post Share on other sites
Fat Old Guy 11 Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Bob White muttered, "Remember to sign-in BEFORE you open a thread so that the "squelch poster" function is engaged." Ah, the road to enlightenment followed by Khomeni (sp?) and other like him. Thoughts that I disagree with may damage my brain so I must ignore them. Of course, Bob claims that he won't read this but . . . . do we believe him? Link to post Share on other sites
evmori 11 Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 OK. I knew about the yahoos from Guliver's Travels. But being a yahoo - Is that a good or bad thing? I needs to know cause the words have meaning! Ed Mori 1 Peter 4:10 Link to post Share on other sites
WHEELER 10 Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 The charter does not have the Scout Oath nor the Scout Law in it. The charter is just to set up the Boy Scouts as a Corporate entity. What is required and would be loved by all is the original scouting documents of the founders of the American program. The current mission and vision statements (vision statements come from those marxist five year planning councils corporations and schools go through which are conducted by little socialist hacks) are majorally flawed. They are compromised with 'political correct' language. There is no need for more website material. It is what is at the historical archive section in Irving Texas that is needed. Lets see how far the BSA program has moved from its original intent. It will prove my points, that is why they can not be shown. Link to post Share on other sites
evmori 11 Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 What is required and would be loved by all is the original scouting documents of the founders of the American program. Who is "all"? I know I don't require the original documents. Remember, the words have meaning! If I don't require the documents then the use of the word all in the context above is incorrect! Please get it correct! Ed Mori 1 Peter 4:10 Link to post Share on other sites
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