Fat Old Guy 11 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 He may be in Iraq but is he a REMF or a real soldier. Link to post Share on other sites
Fat Old Guy 11 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 "Perhaps the old "no atheists in foxholes" should be turned around to "no christians in hospitals", since TRUE christians would just pray to get well, right?" I don't recall that ever being taught in my church. Link to post Share on other sites
LovetoCamp 9 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Fat Old Buddy, I don't think there is a RE in Iraq. Pounder Link to post Share on other sites
Merlyn_LeRoy 72 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Your church never taught Matthew 21:22? The MAAF prez is with the 1st armored division. Link to post Share on other sites
evmori 11 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 I love how Merlyn dodges questions! And Merlyn, what about Matthew 21:22? Ed Mori Scoutmaster Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10 Link to post Share on other sites
Fat Old Guy 11 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 "The MAAF prez is with the 1st armored division." That doesn't mean that he isn't a REMF. Matt 21:22 doesn't mean that prayer alone will heal. Maybe your prayers will be answered by antibiotics. Link to post Share on other sites
LovetoCamp 9 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Why do homosexual God-haters spend so much time at Scouter.com? Pounder Link to post Share on other sites
Merlyn_LeRoy 72 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 I see Fat Old Guy doesn't believe what the bible says. Figures. Ed, it's impossible to explain anything to you. Link to post Share on other sites
hops_scout 9 Posted August 30, 2003 Share Posted August 30, 2003 Prayer alone wont do it. People pray that the doctors and nurses at the hospital are able to get the person healed and back on their feet ASAP. Without Him, we wouldnt have everything we have, such as this forum... Link to post Share on other sites
Fat Old Guy 11 Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 Let's see . .. "If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer." Hmmmm . . . nothing about "healing without medicine" here. Link to post Share on other sites
evmori 11 Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 Humor me Merlyn, Try! FOr an athiest, you seem to know some bible passages. How's that work? Isn't that like a KKK member reading a book by Martin Luther King Jr.???? You continue to not answer question you can't explain with your atheistic view therefore reducing your credibility. Ed Mori Scoutmaster Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10 Link to post Share on other sites
Merlyn_LeRoy 72 Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 FOG: >Let's see . .. "If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer." > >Hmmmm . . . nothing about "healing without medicine" here. It says "you WILL receive whatever you ask for". So if a true believer prays to be healed, this bible verse says they WILL be healed -- even if they have no access to medicine. However, like so much of the bible, it's a lie. If prayers healed people, modern medicine would not have been developed, because people could just pray problems away. But that doesn't work, so people have developed methods that actually work, whether you believe in the right gods or not. US law is finally reaching the point where praying for healing is not recognized as adequate medical treatment; unfortunately, children of a number of stupid, superstitious adults have had to die of treatable diseases for this to happen (see e.g. http://www.apologeticsindex.org/news1/an011109-02.html ) No doubt these parents and many of their parishoners prayed sincerely for their child to be healed, but since they put their trust in a lie, she died quite painfully. Ed, gods don't involve themselves in childbirth, so I don't know why you think gods are needed to explain it. The same with the leaves changing color or cancer remission. I guess if you don't understand how an engine works, you'd abscribe THAT to god, too. "god" is just shorthand for "something Ed doesn't understand". Link to post Share on other sites
Fat Old Guy 11 Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 "So if a true believer prays to be healed, this bible verse says they WILL be healed -- even if they have no access to medicine. " Only God knows who the true believers are. Link to post Share on other sites
Fat Old Guy 11 Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 Merlyn now takes the classic atheist tack of insults which he earlier claimed that he didn't do. Atheists attack because they are desperately trying believe what they claim. Link to post Share on other sites
evmori 11 Posted August 31, 2003 Share Posted August 31, 2003 Good shot Merlyn! Nice one! "About the best thing I've read about gods is "you'll know you've created god in your own image when he hates the same people you do". I see a lot of that." This is where your logic is skewed. We don't create god in our image. God created us in His image! If you believe in God - truly believe - then whatever you pray for will happen the way God feels it is best for you. What about Satan? Do you believe in him? And how do you as an athiest explain the questions I posed? Ed Mori Scoutmaster Troop 1 1 Peter 4:10 Link to post Share on other sites
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