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What is the official uniform of the Venturing program, or is there one? What role does the Crew or Ship play in selecting the Crew or Ship's uniforming, or lack of it, for that matter? I know that the Kelly green shirt and gray trousers are the suggested uniforms as far as the BSA is concerned, can crews pretty much select their own

uniforming .

There are historical re-enactment in our council here we have a Civil War Re-enactment crew, also I have heard of World War II re-enactment crews, and Living history crews, as well as Indian Culture and Ethnic Cultural History crews. I hope this of help to you .

Good Luck, Smooth Sailing, Fair Winds.

I did one mistake the Dan Beard Rover Crew is Venturing Crew 1 not 95 as I previously typed, sorry

Rovering is a program that is very much a traditional form of Senior Scouting to use an old term. The ages for the youth involved are 16-26 years of age. It is a program that is very much part of the international scouting area. However according to Senior Scouting Program Overviews, it was once a part of the BSA. Also according to the SSPO(senior scouting program overview) it mostly disappeared from the American scout scene around 1953 or so. To be replaced by

The Explorer Scouts, then Explorers, then the Exploring Division BSA

predecessor to Venturing (traditional BSA) however here in the USA and still in BSA there is a Venturing Crew that does a Rovering style program they even try to attend the activities. Also independent of the BSA there are Rovering Scout Crews that are a part of Rover Scout Association some Crews could do this as a specialty as does the Dan Beard Rover Crew (Venturing Crew 95) does and I believe that crew is in the Three Fires Council BSA one of the

last BSA Rover Crews in the USA that is in the BSA. This does not include the others that are independent of the BSA.

Venturing and Sea Scouting are different than Troops, Teams and Packs. Co-ed crews are different because an advisor has to be somewhat tolerant and treat the youth more like adults. In Venturing and Sea Scouting youth truly run their own program. They vote in their own officers in the crew and ship. Uniforms are not required, but distinguishing clothing or logos, articles are allowed. Youth also draw up the unit calendar. This is not to say that adults just sit back and let it all happen and not voice their opinion or give leadership where it is needed. Venturing and Sea Scout adult leaders have to be patient and very tolerant but at the same time strict in some matters. Enforce BSA standards and make sure everything is done decently and in order.Everyone is to be treated equally.

Thanks Guys

Why do we do Scouting? On a certain night of the week we could be doing something else instead of being at Scouts for another meeting of dealing with parents or sometimes rowdy kids. We are there because we care and we believe in what we are doing. I know that is why I am there. I am a Unit Commissioner for a Venturing Crew and a Venturing Roundtable Commissioner went through much training for the positions that I hold in BSA and in the Commissioner's Service as well. It is for the youth, and other adult leaders and finally Scouting is why we do it, ok we get a patch, beads, work a ticket as in the case of Wood Badge, or get the Powderhorn for 2 three day weekends of being and acting and doing as a Venturer for that time it does make us better scouters and gives us the training and experience to do our scouting jobs better> Every youth deserves a well trained leader. But we do sometimes put ourselves in that youth mindset where we want to earn that square knot, or that set of beads and do not seem to care for the basic reason for the training which is to make the program better for the youth. So let's all take a time and examine our motives, review the Scout Oath and Law and other Oaths and Codes of our programs reflect and still train and learn but for Youth this time and not us.

it seems to me that the Exploring of old is now the Venturing of today the program seems to be going in that same direction that the old Explorer program went in, prior to 1965, there was recognition and even advancement in the Explorer program, but what was different then was that the post had crews in it, and there was a senior crew leader the same as what today you would have a senior patrol leader in a troop, but after 1965 advancements were done away, the post structure was changed, and a vocational side became more evident and

the spruce green uniform stayed until sometime in the 1970's Sea Scouts became Sea Explorers in 1949, Air Scouts became Air Explorers in the same year, and Explorers BSA became Explorer Division BSA in 1959, however OA elections remained in the Posts until sometime in the early 1990's , now Venturing is very similar to the earlier program it has 5 clusters , outdoor, sports, religious life, sea scouts, arts and hobbies, Venturing however has kept the club like structure versus the old Exploring Post structure that was more of a

troop structure, the ages are 14-20 after a Venturer's 21st birthday he or she has to either become an adult leader or simply leave the program. Venturing is going back to an Council Olympics, similar to the Explorer Olympics of the earlier times, there is a rumor that a leadership conference might return, however until Venturing Division sets it up, it is just a pipe dream.Many of the Classic Exploring programs are returning just with a different name, 2 new awards been introduced the Quest for sports and physical fitness, and to be released later this year the Trust.Unofficially there are plans in fact 3 different plans for a Venturing Honor Society, hopefully co-ed

in fact from what I read of these plans they plan to nominate youth similar to what the OA does, there is a good reference for this on the Ship 90 website, written by a gentleman by the name of Mark Ritter.If anyone has anything to add, or knows something that I don't about Venturing,Sea Scouts, and even the Old Explorer Program or even the new one, please add on.

years ago many BSA were also known as Explorer Bases Iwas just wondering if many of these same camps, now are known as Venturer Bases also and what that designation really means, and also if anyone has any information on how councils run their venturing camps that usually run for about a week ? thanks

on camp staff crews even where you have Boy Scouts working at the camp for the summer are some of the camp staff crews that are Venturing are they permanent crews or are they just started and operated in the summer at the camps, and the scouts that are working there and assigned to that crew are they considered then as dual registered?

Is anyone in the Sea Scout program as an adult leader maybe they can answer a question for me for unit service to ship, does the Sea Scout Ship use a unit commissioner, or service team, also on larger councils where there are a good number of ships is there a council sea scouting committee and would that operate under a Venturing professional scouter, and in a council where you have small number of ships operating and there is not a council sea scouting committee would the commissioner task be of the unit commissioner operating in the district level?

I, ve noticed some scouts, and scouters for that matter wearing patches that are not sewn on the shirt and hang by a loop,I myself have a plastic holder and will wear patches like that , where do they get those patches made at, are they local, or BSA, I think it is a good idea, then you can change one patch for another one, I usually wear camporee, and klondike derby patches like that. In the plastic hanger device.Are some of these patches collectible. Who would have more infornmation about them ?

Grey Eagle I am a scouter in the Chester County Council BSA I am a Venturing Roundtable Commissioner and I also do some Unit Commissioner tasks for a Venturing Crew 37 in Elverson, Pa. Are you familiar with Chester County?

Does anyone know anything about a HCS known as Firecrafters, and would that Idea be friendly to Co-ed Venturing.

Mantuawarrior

I am new to this, I am in on the Mainland USA in a small council in Pennsylvania, and we have about 28 Venturing Crews, a lot of Boy Scouts and many of them are dual registered as Venturers, so a lot of them are in the OA, our OA lodge here is very active, But I personally think that the female Venturers are kind of left out in the cold, There is some interest among leaders here for a co-ed honor society, on the net there is a site dealing with Venturing Honor societies, one is the OT this was designed by some Sea Scouts back in 1995 then they were Sea Explorers but anyway they designed this organization it was very OA like except it is designed for co-ed participation, then there is the Corps of Discovery, very Lewis and Clark like organization , then we have the Member of the Year

but I am very interested in what I read about what you are doing in Guam, can you write back and give more information on this? Thanks

Varsity and Venturing could combine, maybe in Venturing's Sports and Outdoor clusters, also in Religious Life since the LDS church has worked with it for the many years that it has been around,But many other churches could charter teams, and in the case of venturing, crews, but retain a spruce green shirt, go from male, also go co-ed and use Venturing Insignia but maybe retain the team concept, just insert a Venturing logo on the badges of office,

gentlemen I want to thank you for the information and the encouragement to investigate and post on this board and on other boards that maybe more knowledgeable about Learning for Life and Exploring in specific, My writing on this I believe to be a honor, I never thought that with some of my opinions that I would be agreed with or disagreed with, I am a person who just wants to express myself I too am a scouter, Venturing Roundtable Commissioner, and I was a Learning for Life Volunteer for a while, I happen to like what the Exploring program was about prior to 1998, and I like the Vocational and Career side of the Program, I happen to like Sea Scouts, and Venturing as well, I do not like what happened to Exploring, I cannot change that and do not expect to see it changed soon,basically I am a moderately traditional scouter, both programs are interesting,but I must say after a lot of thinking about things lately I will stay a Venturing Roundtable Commissioner and probably not cross into LFL again. No problems with any people there or anywhere in my Council but I believe in the Traditional BSA program better,

could any Venturing advisor tell me how they set up their camps for co-ed crews how many adults do you take and how do you advise your crew to set camp?

where can I get old Explorer camp, regatta and encampment patches and any neckerchiefs?

This thread was spun from another thread.I can understand your point of view, and may I say I agree on some points, however I would not nor will I say that everyone in Exploring youth or adult are all gay, agnostic, or athiest, I believe that Venturing should be and in most councils is seperate from Exploring, however in some councils it is in a EV division, I am however registered in BSA and was in Learning For Life,I will say that BSA has a habit of shooting itself in the foot when it comes to program issues, it hurts itself many times and I believe in 1998 they did, why didn't they discipline the people who did the deed and then appologize and go on. Well here 6 years ago we have 2 seperate programs in 2 different divisions and other youth that did no wrong were hurt and so were adult leaders who did no wrong were hurt as well and all this about gays and straights is hurting BSA all over everywhere, We leaders need to take a stand and let our voices be heard, or is that happening already, Boy Scouts, and Cub Scouts were down in enrollment last year, However my program Venturing enrollment increased. Maybe we need to discover traditional scouting once again, and speak out and protect american traditional scouting and God and Country

This thread was spun from another thread.what is the largest Exploring/LFL cluster at this time? I believe I heard somewhere it is Law Enforcement Exploring. Does anyone know?

This thread was spun from another thread.there is a Venturing Crew in Three Fires Council BSA that uses the

Rovering Program as a specialty, the crew is Venturing Crew 1 also known as Dan Beard Rover Crew, on WWW.cedu.niu.edu/scied/db_rew/DBRC_usa.html this is web address for this Rover Crew also a Venturing Crew. There is also a B-P Crew and the Kudu Crew in Kentucky along with the Queen City Crew in Buffalo,NY these are all on a Canadian Rover Register, the B-P crew organizes Wee Moot in Glascow, Kentucky USA every 2 years Canadian Rovering crews are more supportive to these units than US Crews are. there is also an independent Rover Scouting Association in the USA

This thread was spun from another thread.I recently just heard of an organization that was in the traditional

Exploring program NAOAE National Association of Outdoor Adventure Explorers I believe I read that it was around from 1977-1990 it was sponsored by Coleman Corporation and it held a few Outdoor events at Philmont, Maine National Outdoor Adventure Base, Sea Base, Land Between the Lakes National Outdoor Base for Outdoor Explorers and held a National Outdoor Seminar at the 1998 NEC. If someone could answer this message and give me some more information on this I would appreciate it.

could we start an Exploring forum , maybe we can open this up to post advisors, post committee people, and Learning for Life Executives, and people on LFL committees, and those of us who are registered in both Learning For Life, and Venturing in BSA, or V/E enthusiasts, I have some questions if someone could please answer a few questons, 1. Do they have a training course for Exploring adults at Philmont, 2.Are some of the old training manuals still

available? also something on the Service Team especially for Explorer

Service Teams? Has the transfer to Learning For Life eliminated some

of the old manuals, or are there reprints ? I would also like to take this time and see if anyone would like to open a Explorer Discussion up. Thanks