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Moose, I wonder what the comments would have been like if the three Scouters in your original post were not related and were just three independent adults? Wonder if the term "helicopter parent" would have come up or even opinions about what the ticket should have been. Moving on... From what I can tell, you did not get involved until you discovered that your husband was sabotaging your sons Wood Badge ticket. You said something to both your husband and your son, but neither has listened to you. Your husband has his own agenda and has worked the situation in such a way that he is g

Brotherhood's comment got me thinking about skill awards differently. I'm still pro-skill awards, but why did they go away? Did many Scouts and Scouters not like them? Are there any of them here who would not mind commenting? I know there has been research done that showed Scouts who did not make First Class within a year generally dropped out of Scouting. Were skill awards a major obstacle for them to make First Class? Since most of the skill award requirements are still in the current ranks, were the skill awards themselves causing Scouts anxiety and impeding their advancement? I'm ju

Brotherhood's comment got me thinking about skill awards differently. I'm still pro-skill awards, but why did they go away? Did many Scouts and Scouters not like them? Are there any of them here who would not mind commenting? I know there has been research done that showed Scouts who did not make First Class within a year generally dropped out of Scouting. Were skill awards a major obstacle for them to make First Class? Since most of the skill award requirements are still in the current ranks, were the skill awards themselves causing Scouts anxiety and impeding their advancement? Just c

NJCubScouter, I'm just curious. Since you were a Scout when the requirements were pre-skill awards like there are today, was the focus on getting as many requirements signed off as soon as you possibly could regardless of knowledge acquired and retained, or was it that Scouts learned the skill, were tested without aid, and were signed off as completed? I ask because what I see today is Scouts being shown how to complete a requirement and being tested (sometimes with aid and prompts) in the minutes immediately thereafter. I wouldn't say it was a problem except that the same Scouts usual

I remember them well and earned all twelve. Sometimes wish they were still around because they marked milestones on a Scout's way to the his rank. Earning one made you feel like you accomplished a goal and learned something pretty important. Never liked the way that the BSA discontinued them and sprinkled the requirements amongst the T-2-1 ranks. When I was a Scout and you did the Hiking Skill Award, you got a heavy dose of hiking and orienteering until you completed everything for the belt loop. I also remember my Scoutmaster or SPL looking around for Second Class Scouts to teach first a

For most of my Scouting years, I summer camped at Camp Child in Manomet, MA. The camp is long gone now and I will forever hold a grudge against council for selling it. Troop leadership changed when I was a late teen and was more outgoing. Sandwiched in between my Child years was one summer at Sabattis Scout Reservation in the Adirondacks of NY; camp at the time belonged to Hiawatha Council. Did another summer at Camp Tamaracouta outside Montreal in Quebec, Canada. Did another summer at Henderson Scout Reservation near Cooperstown, NY. Did another summer at T.L. Storer Scout Camp in NH.

Eagle92, I received from council a manila folder for each Scouter and inside was a certificate, a Scouter's Training Award medal in a case, a square knot patch, and a little BSA symbol pin for the knot or medal to indicate that the award was for Boy Scouting (as opposed to being earned in another division such as Venturing.) I was pleasantly surprised. I had an idea there would be a certificate, but I thought the troop would have to buy the medal and knot. Heck, when I was awarded the STA back in 1992, all I got was the medal in a case without a certificate. I even had to purchase my

DesertRat, I am a big proponent of adult training and recognition as I feel it really helps the Scouts. Recently, I submitted progress records for a few Scouters, who completed the Scouters Training Award, without telling them. There are a bunch of ASM's and Committee Members that have done a ton for the troop; however, they rarely got any recognition other than a quick "Thank You" as a meeting. I decided to see if any were eligible for the Scouters Training Award. While many were close, four actually had completed it. I confirmed their progress with the Committee Chair who knew noth

I agree that the 100% requirement does not state "for two years." Once you attain 100% trained for Committee Chair, Cubmaster, and all Den Leaders, you have completed the requirement. With that said, it is my opinion that it SHOULD NOT be too hard to keep that percentage up once attained especially with mandatory training coming. Once a Pack Trainer is aware of a position change, he/she can start bombarding the Scouter with information and dates about upcoming training. I found a copy of the progress record that is similar to the other ones here at this link: http://www.oacbsa.org/trai

Nick, I remember moving from Scout to Scouter. I submitted my Eagle paperwork a week prior to my 18th birthday and had my Eagle BOR almost a month later. My best friend got had his Eagle four days later which was four days before his 18th birthday. We never wore our Eagle patches. We both just sewed on our Eagle and AOL knots. We also became just the second and third adults in the troop to wear any knots. The only other one was the old SM who was awarded the District Award of Merit many years earlier. The knots just were not that well known in my troop. Four years later I earned th

I recently went camping with my Daisy Girl Scout troop and used a box oven I made to cook the meatballs for our pasta dinner. The place we camped had a fire ring where I would going to get the charcoal ready; however, before the campout, a wind storm knocked a huge tree over right on top of the fire ring. The owner of the property would not allow anyone near the fire ring until the tree could be cleared. Since I did not have a fire ring, I bought a couple of 4 inch deep aluminum trays to use as a fire place. I set the trays on the ground (one inside of the other) after clearing the area an

Girl Guides in the U.K. was started today back in 1910. The movement spread during the next two years to Europe, Asia, Australia, Africa, and the Americas. So Happy Centenary Celebration Day to all my fellow Scouters and Guiders! Chazz Lees

As a SPL in the mid-80's, I ate with my staff. My troop had a staff patrol which consisted of the appointed positions (Quartermaster, Librarian, Scribe, Troop Historian, and Instructors) and was led by one of two ASPL's. The other ASPL was my program assistant. Also, the Leadership Corps usually ate with the staff as there were only a few of them. The adults ate by themselves as did the other patrols. When it was mealtime, we scattered to the winds if it was a patrol cooking outing. Chazz Lees

@83_Eagle_T148 If you reread my post, you will see that I mentioned many awards and not just the ones for Den Leaders. I read a bunch of progress records the other day and just compiled groups with the same requirements. The Cub Scouter Award clearly states, "Dates of service used to earn this award cannot be used to earn another key or award." Since the Pack Trainer Award is anotheraward, a Pack Trainer must use different tenure years if he/she wishes to earn both the Pack Trainer Award and the Cub Scouter Award. As for the second part of your scenario, I guess the answer depen

I had a friend who used to staple his POR and rank badge on his shirt after his mother refused to sew his new patches. Chazz Lees

I just checked the Skipper's Key and the Sea Scout Leader Training Award. Neither have restrictions on tenure. Also, The Skipper's Key does not state that tenure for the Sea Scouting Leader Training Award can be used for its tenure. It appears five years are needed for both awards. The same is true for the Varsity Leader Training Award and the Varsity Scout Coach's Key. As written the requirements of tenure are five years total in order to earn both. Chazz Lees

Are you allowed to use the same tenure for more than one award/key? My answer is that it depends on the awards in question. I just looked at the progress record sheets for the Den Leader Award, the Cub Scouter Award, the Cubmaster Award, the Tiger Cub Den Leader Award, the Webelos Den Leader Award, and the Venturing Leader Training Award. There is no need to interpret what the tenure requirement means. It is in plain English and states, "Dates of service used to earn this award cannot be used to earn another key or award." So if one of the awards in question is from this list, then yo

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