InquisitiveScouter

3 minutes ago, Navybone said:

people who refuse to admit that there are race issues

No one here has said anything remotely resembling what you are attributing to people...

Just bizarre...

4 minutes ago, Navybone said:

Yep.   Intolerance is nothing more than unwillingness to accepts views, beliefs or behaviors different than ones own.

Your own words convict you.

8 minutes ago, Navybone said:

everyone need to take a look, have a conversation with those experiencing racism to better understand it, and be brave confront it when you see it.

Remove the log from your own eye before you concentrate on the speck of sawdust in mine.

Just now, Navybone said:

there is no room for intolerance

So, you tolerate everything except intolerance?

4 minutes ago, Navybone said:

What Liz says is fine, and I have concern with your lack of tolerance with people who disagree with you.   

Navybone,

Thanks for swearing the oath and putting on the uniform.

I never indicated the BSA was a training ground for military or police.

My intolerance was for Liz's comment indicating military and police are "killing brown people at home and abroad."  That is a blatant, broad-brushed accusation of racism in the military and police.  I will not tolerate that kind of false accusation.

And as you know, and should be in your experience, the military is the most egalitarian institution in our society.  Of all organizations I have been involved with in my life, the US military is the purest meritocracy I (and you?) have experienced.

2 minutes ago, RememberSchiff said:

From back in the day,

 

That will be disposed of down the Memory Hole soon...

3 minutes ago, RememberSchiff said:

people have equal access and equal outcome

Equal access I agree with..."equal outcomes" is an ill-conceived idea.

The unalienable right of Pursuit of Happiness is not a guarantee of happiness...

There be dragons...

@Liz

As a 26 year veteran of the armed forces, I spent more of my career supporting humanitarian missions around the world than I did supporting combat operations under the orders of my civilian governments, which you (we) elected.

Your comment shows an incredible level of ignorance, and is downright unscoutlike.  I recommend you delete it yourself before the moderators do.

1 minute ago, Navybone said:

Police killed 1004 people in 2019. Black people were 24% of those killed despite being only 13% of the population

Correlation is not cause.  If you do not understand the difference, I recommend you read up on it.

BSA is not an agent of cultural change.  By following their mission, they may affect it, but it is not the mission.

Racism, or sexism, or ageism, or "genderism", or any other discrimination-"ism" you can name (as well as religious discrimination) have always existed.  They are part of our human nature which we must eternally struggle against.  You will never end them.

There is a simple answer, 'Love God, and love your neighbor as you love yourself."

Scout Oath and Scout Law are simple codes that encapsulate those simple ideas.  No need for new laws, new programs, or new MB's.  In our circles, just follow the Scout Oath and Scout Law.  You will not find any better solution.

23 minutes ago, PACAN said:

rational decisions and thought processes are devoid in people today. 

Hear, hear. 

When you look at the empirical data and studies done, you cannot reasonably reach the conclusion there is "systemic" racism, nor is there a police bias.  It is perceived...

There are, however, far too many cases of excessive use of force...but race is not a statistically significant causal factor in these.

https://killedbypolice.net/

See the bottom of the splash page for "proven solutions"

None of those have anything to do with race...

When we disguise our feelings as thought, we make all nonsense possible.

PACAN, you are awesome.

2 minutes ago, tnmule20 said:

Purely political. Sad. 

Agreed.  This is a perfect example to illustrate the term "virtue signalling"

Just having you on...random number

Just now, mashmaster said:

Discrimination is wrong on every level

Agree to that.  But these moves won't address any of that.  Stuff and fluff...

4 minutes ago, Jameson76 said:

Not saying these are necessarily poor initiatives.  They wreak of knee jerk reaction and a lack of actual leadership

They are poor initiatives.  Except for #4.

3 minutes ago, mashmaster said:

Does it put a timeline on for the Merit badge?  My son is working on his Eagle Project now.  

Mash,

If implemented, it will most likely have a clause to exempt Scouts who earned, say, Life before a certain date.

And this will be (or should be if equal treatment is the desired outcome) the final nail in the coffin of Native American-style regalia in the OA

Oh, and I missed this the first time through...

"...and taking immediate action toward introducing a version for volunteers in the coming months."

Introducing a specific diversity and inclusion merit badge that will be required for the rank of Eagle Scout.

YGBSM!

BTW,

My personal pronouns are Your Majesty, His Majesty, and His Majesty!

Is that the official Rover uniform ^^^^^^^ If so, I am IN!!!

Wait...is that a skin tight leotard, or is that his bare butt cheeks?

7 minutes ago, MattR said:

it does take more work than just writing a check

Yes, but they learn so much more!  And the price is 50 to 80% less!

I took a crew of 8 for a week on the Delaware River last August for just over $120 per person, including gas and tolls for the drivers. (We used our own canoes, kayaks, and accoutrement.)

Canoeing MB, 50 miler award, NPS Scout Ranger Award, and a darned good time!

17 minutes ago, DuctTape said:

Though I would encourage all adults to steer scouts towards planning and executing their own adventures, even the high adventure ones.

Like I said..."DuctTape for National Commissioner!!"

And, a fairly decent resource...https://tap.scouting.org/

2 minutes ago, Kudu said:

I'll send two BSA Wood Badgers

old school, or WB for the 21st Century?...bwahahahaha

15 minutes ago, elitts said:

Were it not mortgaged, it becomes much easier for a judge to say " The sale of this property would provide another 500 million in funds to pay creditors, I'm going to order it".

That might exactly be why they did it last year, to shield it from a bankruptcy liquidation order.  If the judge thinks this was the case, they may still order it liquidated free and clear.

5 minutes ago, Angus said:

dual memberships

Hadn't thought of that!  Thanks for the idea