5thGenTexan

Committee ganged up on me in person at this week's Committee Meeting. I found out our previous CO, a Methodist Church didn't want the Pack playing on the preschool playground any more because they were tearing stuff up AND a neighbor reported everything Scouts were there they were destructive. I thought it best the Troop stay off as well since they have no business on preschool playground and we just needed to take step to avoid issues with the Church. I did make the decision myself and reported it to them. They apparently think I was wrong. After a popcorn kickoff meeting I came back

To be clear... this isn't taking out the trash. None of do that, not even leadership. I always make sure it's taken care of for cleanliness. Iam talking about a police line on camp before leaving.

The COR is being wishy washy not wanting to make a decision at the risk of losing volunteers. So, no help.

I want to ask here. Is demanding Scouts do one thing OR do push-ups considered corporal punishment in 2023 in the barriers to abuse? Yelling loudly, not to be heard but angry... pick up trash or do push ups. I haven't slept all night worrying I'm putting Scouts in danger if I quit and dont stand up for thier safety.

I need to talk to him I think. I'm not really sure if he been going to Troop Meetings because he wants to or because I want him to go. He has said before he feels like he is letting me down if he doesn't go.

Told the Troop I was done with em tonight. Now, I gotta find a new place for my son.

Just interested to see how its working out for those having to deal that closely with their Council.

Did anyone end up going the Council Owned Unit route after the Methodist Church stopped chartering?

He seemed fine. He was ready to go back out and do whatever they were doing in the meeting. <shrug>

I think I am ready to bail. Not sure if I want to find a new Troop, start a new Troop (Ive formed a GT with little to no help), or see if my kid even wants to continue. But I am done with this group of adults.

Recently, I can assure you there are Scouts that need a refresher in not being jerks. Citizenship in Society is exactly what they need. After the way some of their parents have behaved this week, I kinda see where they get it though,.

So,,, the Scout told a different story than he told his parents. If nothing else we have some bad behavior issues.

Personally, I dont really care about a person's uhhh affiliation... if that is the right word. People are who they are. I make my judgements based on one's character. I will fight for them though when others decide to cause harm because of who they are.

My first step is to find out from the Scout what happened. One of the leaders at summer camp was the SM. The SM who I heard from4 feet away tell Scouts they either help do dishes OR start doing pushups. The same SM that told Scouts last week to work on boring MBs during meetings and finish in the next 2 weeks OR else just continue doing boring classroom meetings till they finish. I do not trust the judgement of the adults that were there. I NEED to know what happened first hand from the Scout at this point. IF I find out this was indeed a serious bullying / hazing thing and the a

I know the "Adults" that were there have a history of having no interest in the rules. Scouts climbing 20 ft trees, Scouts catching paper towel rolls on fire and tossing them in people's yards, Scouts being unsupervised, and the list goes on. That is a topic that will be address soon. I have been told in the past by the SM if I want a lot of discipline in the Troop I should find a ROTC program to join To answer your question I do not trust that the adults in camp address the issue per BSA guidelines because they are not trained. If this was indeed a case of bullying, I want to to be p

I do not know and as far as I am concerned it doesnt matter. Scouts calling another Scout that in the way it was described to me is wrong. I was not at summer camp when it happened, I just found out from the parent the other day. So, I am going to meet with the Scout at the Troop Meeting along with another adult who wasnt there and we are going to find out the details.

Looks like this is something I will need to deal with without the training. So any advice is of course welcome I learned that one of our Scouts was bullied at Summer Camp earlier this month. Two of our Scouts felt the need to call the third Scout "Gay" as well as throw rocks at him. Kinda the gist of the incident. I have permission from the parent to discuss with the Scout at the next meeting what all happened. Maybe what is more worrisome is one of the adults there posted in our Slack that "had a few issues, but they took care of them". I definitely don't want a habit of "W

Have a meeting with the IH and COR next week. Talked to the DE this morning at our popcorn meeting and he is going to come by at our next Troop Meeting to see how things are. (We don't have District Commissioners really)

I have talked to our COR today and we are setting up a meeting with the COR and IH to talk about training. It will be my job to explain to them what the training is and the importance. Its my hope the CO will agree all the leaders will be required to at least get Position Specific to be leaders in the Unit.

I understand all of that. We were a FUMC Unit. Our COR with the FUMC would come to Committee Meetings. but generally just signed adult apps that we asked to be signed. I am glad we found someone that would charter us at all without have to be a Council chartered Unit. I can't make the CO be more involved.

Thats the way it works on paper, but not in our world. We have a new CO and they don't want any involvement in what we do. COR hopes to find another "old guy" at the Legion so he doesnt have to mess with it. Previous CO was FUMC, they didnt get involved in what we were doing either. But the CO and COR is not selecting anyone here and never has. When they sign an app, its just a thing they have to come do. Current SM is the SM because no one else was going to do it two years ago. I along with a couple of others are the only ones that care about the program being run as its desig

No. SM has YPT and IOLS from 2016. That is all. Never attended a Roundtable, EVER. ASM missed a class at summer camp last year to finish IOLS, but otherwise trained. He is following the lead of the SM. 55% of our adult leadership is NOT trained. We (a couple of us) offered to spend a Saturday doing an ILST course because none of the Scouts have any training and we were shot down by the SM. He wanted to show videos on a TV on a campout somehow. None of our adults ever attend a roundtable. MBCs are registered as counselors. However they are driving teaching MBs to everyone

We were a FUMC Unit up until recently of course. We are now chartered by our local American Legion Post. COR is an Air Force Vet AND an Eagle Scout from our Troop. I met with him recently and we discussed issues for an hour. He doesnt want to get in the middle of it, but seemed to be supportive of what we need to do. He wasn't particularly happy with what I was telling him. Our Advancement Chair was a Scout in another state, but is really well versed in how things should run as outlined by the BSA. We have a new parent, to the Troop but was a DL in the Pack. He is police office

AND, they have planned another "Family fun Day" at a local lake. Because if its a family fun day, its just families getting together and they don't have to worry about the rules. This upcoming one is a swimming and kayaking event. Excuse my language, but this just scares the crap out of me they are taking Scouts to a lake with no lifeguards, no one has taken Safe Swim. And without that, I think if something happens insurance wont pay since they skirted everything. Not that insurance is my primary concern, it is safety of the Scouts.

We are in small town of about 7000. To go to another Troop is to leave town about 30 minutes in any direction with Scouts my kid doesnt even go to school with, I am the one, about single handily that formed the Girl Troop here, so even I bug out of the Boy Troop I will still be around. I am CC for both and the one that has made the effort to make all the community contacts. Mayor, City Council, etc... they all know who I am. I DO NOT like conflict, so I probably havent done what I should do to try to correct the problem. I am not really sure as CC how much I can get into what the SM does