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  1. Is it a lie when BSA is asked "Is this change a result of the BSA’s declining membership numbers?" And the BSA answers: "No. The BSA has experienced renewed interest in Scouting, and we believe that is largely in response to program innovation and a more thorough understanding of what families want and need when it comes to extracurricular activities. In fact, recent surveys of parents not involved with Scouting showed high interest in getting their daughters signed up for programs like Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts, with 90 percent expressing interest in a program like Cub Scouts and
  2. Great to hear about the 50 miler mom, I hope the girls will be able to find lots of moms like that when the time comes. I know of one boy scout troop where all the adult male leaders are easily over 300 pounds each. . . and that troop does not ever hike.
  3. I am sure Girls can do 5 mile hikes, my 8 year old daughter can do 10 mile hikes with a back pack. I know a 71 year old scout master that has no problem doing 5 mile hikes with heavy pack. So 11 to 17 year old girls interested in scouting should have no problem. Sadly, I do not know of any 30 to 50 year women involved in scouting that could do a 5 mile hike. I was out with some Cub scouts doing a 3 mile day hike last month and I had slim young women in their 20's that had to quit after 0.6 miles, they were just done. I was shocked. I am not sure where the girls are going to find adul
  4. It is very likely a Boy Lead troop will do things different than a Girl Lead troop, just because Boys and Girls like different things. If the Boys and Girls both get to lead their troops and have the same scout requirements for rank then the Girls have equal opportunities. The Boy Scout rank requires are not that hard, they just take time and lots of paper work. I see nothing in the requirements that a Girl could not do.
  5. I am a very lucky scouter, the adult leadership of my troop is 100% on point with aim & methods and running a boy lead program. We have a great group of boys as well, all are good friends and they are cooking up some interesting new adventures we have never done before, it will be fun. I get upset when I see other troops that have become train wreaks well on their way to folding completely, due to the iron fist rule by one adult scouter who is completely off the map, in one case the adult scouter causing the problem not even the SM or ASM. I get upset when for the 3rd year in a
  6. You don't need my crystal ball, I will just lend you my copies of scouter magazine, if you want to see what national has in mind for the future of the "Group Formerly Know As Boy Scouts of America" (GFKABSA)
  7. There are about 1,800,000 Girl Scouts, they are happy with the program, it is designed by women for girls and ran mostly by women I was part of a Girl Scout camp out and it was a much better experience then the last Boy Scout camporee that I went to. The Girls Scouts ran an amazing camp fire program, while the Boy Scouts had to sit through the most boring and poorly done mess of a camp fire I have ever seen in my life and the camporee was mostly a bunch of flip chart classes with the aim of signing scouts off on different merit badge requirements so that the Boys can get that Eagle out by age
  8. Instead of making arguments about what is best come back to the real world and plan out what would be the best course of action to use the BSA brand to increase money flow to get the salary of the BSA CEO at national back up to $1,600,000 a year. You have to think more like a well paid businessman that wants to keep the board happy so he can keep his job, maybe get a raise, after all that is who is making the decisions, not the volunteers. The Boy Scouts of America brand name is one of the best known brand names in the world so keep the name. Increase membership fees from $24 to
  9. Boys? Best for the boys? I do not think boys are the main focus of BSA anymore. Girls and single moms are more important to the BSA now. The boys and scouters need to just accept that and be cheerful as they help the girls, single moms, and families.
  10. I am convinced now the plan all along has been co-ed. Which is why national does not have a name for the girls program. I expect that sometime before 2019 national will announce that they have decided to go full co-ed.
  11. Here is a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Association_of_Girl_Guides_and_Girl_Scouts_members GSUSA is a member of WAGGGS Calling the Girl Boy Scouts Girl Guides would be all sorts of problems with the GSUSA. Personally, I think the Boy Scouts should be extra brave and call the new program GIRL SCOUTS OF AMERICA ( GSA ) That would be a BOLD move.
  12. We cant use the term "Girl Guides", the name "Girl Guides" belongs to the Girl Scouts and the WAGGGS.
  13. Currently, can one person be the scout master of two troops? Does BSA allow that? Can one person be the scout master and be a pack master at the same time?
  14. Look here: http://scoutingwire.org/commitment-values-make-scouting-accessible-families/?utm_source=Volunteers&utm_campaign=94ffa056dc-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_10_25&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_9777d746fe-94ffa056dc-204165641 People in the comments are pushing hard to make Boy Scouts Co-Ed. . . BSA is going to take a lot of heat over this. Maybe national will never have to think up a name for the girl program, maybe they will just decided to go co-ed over the next year due to overwhelming public pressure, maybe that was the plan all along. . .
  15. Will existing scout masters be expected to run the girl troop as well as the boy troop?
  16. Why do they need to develop a new girl's program? If the girl's are going to be eagles why can't the girl's just use the existing boy's program? Step 1: Come up with a name for the Girl's program. Step 2: Girls can use the existing Boy's program materials with no changes. Step 3: Make a Girls application form Step 4: Start forming Girl Only Troops Done
  17. Things are very confused right now, last week I was asked while at the grocery store by someone who knows I am a scouter, who heard girls are joining Boy Scouts. "Will the Girl Boy Scouts be selling cookies this year as well as popcorn?" That honest question from a member of the public sums things up pretty well. Since national has failed to actually name the new girls program the general public has been calling it the by the logical name of Girl Boy Scouts, I hear that all the time when people ask me about the new changes in Boy Scouts. I get asked, "When ca
  18. I am seeing lots of angry push back in the news and on non-scouting message boards from the general public and from women in my town about the BSA's decision to allow girls to join has not gone far enough. There is a lot of anger that the girl boy scouts will be segregated into girl only troops. There is a hard push now to mix girls in with the boys in the same way schools are a mix of boys and girls. . . after all boy scouts do is camp and learn to tie knots and girls can do that right along side of the boys. . .
  19. Whatever the claimed motivations of national are do not matter. The path BSA National is on is one of survival by any means necessary, money is the life blood of the BSA National. Anything in the way of making more money will be thrown overboard. Anything they can think of to make more money they will do. The dishonesty of national over the last year is a mountain of proof that they do not care one wit about being trustworthy. Money is more important then being trustworthy. Just being up front and honest with the scouters would have been a much better way to do things. I can not eve
  20. This is all about money. BSA is just a business. The scout law and scout oath is being used to shame scouters into toeing the line for national as they use the BSA brand to maximize profits. You can count on national to make more decisions to increase income down the road. The only time you will see the pros do anything that will make the program better for the boys is when such a change will increase their bottom line. They have picked money over being trustworthy and loyal to the current members.
  21. Based on this way of thinking Mike Surbaugh has a free hand to change the Boy Scouts in any way he wants as long as he can claim it is helping girls or single moms or families or any other people. My question is how have the changes helped the Girl Scouts, if it is hurting the Girl Scouts then BSA National has broken the scout oath. I think what he really means is the BSA BRAND is the best name that can be used to produce maximum profit, so we get to keep our name. Pride? I do not remember Pride being part of the scout law. I am not sure being prideful is a good thing.
  22. How do you get 14-15 year old boys to come up with new fun ideas? Good question. . . The answer, the scouter has got to be a scout and do some scouting. Grab some books about interesting placing near your location and go and scout them out. Look for odd and interesting places with a story, great places to hike to and camp at. Then when you are sitting around the campfire with the boys tell them some stories of your grand adventures, get them inspired with ideas of what is possible. . . I have seen this method work wonders. . . or Make a big list of possible things your troo
  23. I was a scout in the 1970's. I was in from age 11 to age 17 and I made First Class, I earned only merit badges that interested me. I was not at all worried about advancement, I was too busy having fun with my friends and going on adventure after adventure. Quitting never crossed my mind back then, scouting was too much fun to give up. Scouting changed my life and made me a leader, it happened naturally, without me even realizing it at the time. There was no EDGE method and exact methods of teaching. It was just a group of Boys making the adventure happen, our adventures that we picked and w
  24. I was a scout back in the 1970's I remember driving to Camparees listening to Disco on the radio. . . We all had tons of energy and camparees were all about companion between patrols and lively campfires. It was boys doing scout stuff for fun and it was really fun. I was scout from 11 until I was 17 and I made First Class, it changed my life for the better. Just last year I went to a camparee and what did I see . . . Hundreds of scouts and scouters sitting in lawn chairs looking at smart phones most the day. Scouts moving slow and looking bored with nothing to do. T
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