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Cubsrgr8, My understanding of the "rule" is a boy needs to be 11 or in sixth grade (Mike Long help me out if I got that wrong). The troop I am with is willing to accept boys year round who meet that criteria. This year we had 8 boys come to the troop from 4 different sources at different times. Granted this makes it harder to set up and manage a new boy patrol but we're working it out. When to do the cross over (IMHO) is up to the pack. If the troop wants the boys they get them then as long as the boys qualify. If the troop feels they'll be too much trouble then there are alwa

Thank You again R7, On that note, I think I will also step away from this portion of the thread. We all have free will, it's a gift. How we use it is a choice and choices have consequences. God Bless

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If I can't see it it can't be real? As far as having the same moral standards, I'm afraid that isn't possible. If you use a different source document you will have different standards. The Jews use only the old testament and their standards are far different Christian standards. I know that what I beleive is true because the bible tells me and because there is more ducumentation to support it's acurracy than there is for any other book in history. I know Jesus was resurected because there were more than 500 witnesses. How do you know that what you beleive is true?

Sctmom, I can say it because Jesus said it. It's really no different than warning a blind person that they are about to walk in front of a moving bus. If they choose to keep walking that is their choice but they will be no less injured because they refused to believe the bus was real.

Rooster7, Thanks. You have captured what I was struggling with. If I have offended anyone, my apologies. God is Real. It is my sincere hope that those of you who have hardened your hearts toward Him will come to know Him before it is too late. Eternity is a long time.

So sctmom, are you saying that truth is nothing more than what each person believes? That there is no absolute, transendant truth in the universe but that everyone gets to pick what is true and what is not? And, if that is what you are saying, can we ever say anything is wrong? Or is everything acceptable as long as at least one person wants to do it?

My apologies to our forum regulars for the poor formating of my last post. I could not get it to preview and thought that perhaps the problem was in the HTML coding for italics. I changed it to bold and while it still did not preview it did post. The bolded sections are quotes from NJ.

Question #1: No, I do not and yes I would. Question #2: The same. The BSA does not ask for reverence to no "living God" but rather that God is a supernatural creative force and higher power that created the Earth, or set its creation in motion at some earlier stage like the Big Bang, and has had no other involvement in the affairs of mankind? (Talk about needing blind faith!!) The BSA requires Reverence to God. Question #3: I think you have mis-defined the word. I am not trying to convert you or anyone else to Christianity. I am simply telling you the truth (no, not MY truth).

What do you base that statement on? I've not once heard a Jew claim Jesus to be an idol.

Sorry, Pascal's wager makes no assumptions. It simply states that if atheists are right then it doesn't matter what you beleive. Where as if Christians are right it does. So atheists should not be at all concerned about what Christians beleive. Unfortunately, without God there is only man, and man is inconsistant. With man, right and wrong are not absolute, they are based on feelings and therefore nothing can be judged as wrong...including my beleives. Of course, Hitler, Stalin, Bin Ladin, Arafat, Sir Han Sir Han, Timothy Mcvey were all perfectly justified in what they did because right

I don't want it to look like I threw this cat in the middle of a dog show and just stepped back to see what happens. I knew in posting this that there would be strong opinions on both sides. My point in bringing this organization to your attention was not necessarily to promote it (I don't know enough about it for that) but being a christian myself I felt it might be worth investigation by those of you who have daughters and would prefer a christian base in their youth organization. As for the girl scouts, they have never, to my knowledge, claimed to be religeously grounded (As the BSA has)

I only have sons, but thought that folks with daughters might be interested in this organization. http://www.afa.net/activism/aa082001.asp http://www.ahgonline.org/

Our cub pack also used to do the cake raffle but it was only among parents so as Bob White says that is not much of an issue to the council. A scoutmaster I met at summer camp last had a rather interesting fundraiser that his troop does. For $25 a year the troop will install a flag mount at your business and 6-7 times a year on special occasions the troop will come out and put a flag in the holder in the morning and then take it down again that evening. He said the troop makes around $2000. per year. It's a long term commitment and you do occassionally lose a flag.

Just a quick word of warning while this thread is still fairly fresh. A friend of mine filled his stove with coleman fuel. He did not have any major problems other than blackening of his pan but I have read that you should not use anything other than denatured alcohol as other fuels can cause the stove to somehow over-pressurize and rupture. I have no first-hand experience with this but I figure better safe than sorry.

We are trying a hybrid of the new boy patrol program. Our new scouts are currently in a new boys patrol and we plan to have them there at least until summer camp. We are using the older boys as instructors which lets the new scouts get to know them while they work toward their first class. We will have the new scouts to tenderfoot by summer camp and are contimplating integrating them at that point. I agree that when you have a mix of older and younger boys the older normally take the top positions but I don't necessarily think that is a bad thing. As the older boys move up (and out) the n

We had our "Scout" rally last night. It was a blast. It was the third meeting for our new boys. We took last week to make sure they all knew what we would be doing this week and told them to study all the requirements. We started by going around as a group to each of our 7 stations, introducing the older scout who would be testing them and properly demonstating the activity. After that we placed them in the center of the basketball court, explained the rules of engagement, and said we wanted to see how quickly they could complete all the stations. We did not make it a race specifically.

NJScouter, Have you spoken to the PTA to see if there is a specific black mom or dad who might be able to give you insight into why the situation is as it is? Or, perhaps could even play a large role in changing it.

The difference between knowlege and wisdom is experience.

There are only two types of people in the world...Those who are too important to lie to...and those who aren't important enough to lie to.

I was in our council HQ the other day. During our conversation our CE asked if our troop was planning on attending an upcoming council event. This event had not been scheduled and announced prior to our annual planning meeting so we had not origianlly planned on attending. When we heard about the event we changed our schedule to incorperate it but another opportunity presented itself to us. We went to the scouts and said, "here are your choices. The troop can attend the council event or we can attend this other event, or we can do both if you are willing to do two weekends in the same mont

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One of the best promotional items we have is our poster collection. I make sure we have a camera on every outing and when we get back I take 10 or 12 of the pictures and make a poster. I include the dates and name of the activity. Whenever we visit a pack or have a special activity the first thing we do is throw the posters up on the walls. The cubs are usually impressed with the activities as are most of the adults. It's a great recruiting tool. And it lets the parents and cubs know that if they come to our troop they are going to be doing some serious scouting. The boys who come to us

Actually we would change our "routine". Gosh darn editer!

In our troop we have a mix of Catholic and Protestant youth. Heavier on the Protestant side. We do a non-denominational Christian service. We just added 8 new boys to our roster and one of the first things I did was ask the adults about the religious affiliation of the boys and their families. If we had picked a jewish or muslim scout we would try to make arrangements for his religeous needs (whether that means changing our rutine or finding a service in the area we are camping). I personally think it is important for people to attend organized worship services of some type. But, I know