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Well MARK S it seems like I have you beat by $1.50.

 

I'm talking about instruction ie., history, and the knowledge about what makes it work. In addition to the components which the leaders will wire to a board and the earphone and the ground rod. I'm talking a working rig here.All for a buck and a half less than that kit.

 

BTW I wish all you hams(my brother in law included) would get together and share knowledge with the cubs. Why, with all the hams who really understand the process and theory, aren't 95% of all cubs in America doing this elective.

 

And the east coast is great range for a crystal radio from your location. Great job!

or as you say BRAVO ZULU.

 

In the USMC I was a 2531 with attendance at IMCO school at NTC San Diego I could do 12 words a minute but it near drove me nuts.

Quick survey:

How much does it cost to go to Pow Wow in your council?

 

Do they charge extra for any craft type classes that you may wish to take that could require extra materials?

 

For those of you that are Den leaders, If you could attend a Crystal radio class(bear elective 3) and you actually made a radio that worked and were offered the knowledge to teach the boys would all that be worth $8 to you?

 

Thank you in advance for your reply.

I quess my light weight MSR missing link tent is taboo as it is orange.

Maybe if the US Gov adopts the LNT guidelines then the ACLU will sue on behalf of my choice of color.

 

No justice No Peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Let's all pile in the back of my VW bus and drive up to the "LOVE IN"

HO HO HO CHI MIHN the NLF is gonna win! oops wrong war.

For firearms, The last I checked, You had to be an NRA instructor CERTIFIED in the discipline that you were instructing. That is if you shot a .22 rifle with the boys you had to be an instructor for rifles. Shotgunning same . Muzzleloading same. I've spent a lot of trigger time and I have yet to meet a person who is certified in all three implements.

 

50 years ago we had more youth involved in shooting sports and no school shootings and much less crime. Real progress on that front.

Today Johnny sits in the dark of his room playing "Grand Theft Auto" on the video and Mama buys him a $200 dollar paintball gun, but wouldn't let anybody teach her kid healthy respect for a firearm. After all Rosie O'donnell and sharon Stone say guns are bad,

 

Right now our district is trying to get some people certified. It ain't cheap. Nor is the class offered within a hundred miles of where we live.

We cannot use a NYS certified Hunter Safety Course intructor. But as Nut said check with your DE. Good luck and thank you for exposing your boys to a healthy sport.

 

side note: My Gun Club has an outdoor range, an indoor range, 2 trap fields a skeet field and sporting clays. About ten years ago they wanted to build a softball field and small consession(sp?) stand. The liability insurance was going to be more for the softball field than all the shooting sports combined. Softball causes more pain and suffering than shooting sports. I guess blown out knees on 50 year old men aren't cheap anymore.

Your actual mileage may vary.

This reg is bad.

2 deep and six kids that is the limit. "Sorry you can't take a whole patrol camping in the Eastern High Peaks 'cause somebody else ruined it for you."

 

Can 2 adults and a full patrol of 8 boys cause less of an impact than 8 slobs?

 

Why did the APA allow for a 250' cell tower in Lake George? Some folks call it "Frankenpine" (it will be a monster cell tower dressed like a fake pine tree).

 

Which will cause a greater impact?

 

How did the APA arrive at the number of 8?

 

The reg is bad. Stick to areas outside of the High Peaks.

 

Anybody want to see selective enforcement? Why is it every summer there is a hundred bucks worth of smashed beer bottles(none of them emptied by kids underage I'm sure) at the road to Jabe pond? Maybe they could send a ranger over there on a Saturday night.

 

Get the number to an even dozen when more than 50% is under 18 years old. That would allow youth groups from Scouts and Churches and high Schools to be safe and train kids. Kids under 18 need more supervision than college kids.

 

Guy from the EMS store------------- read his comment. Nothing like slamming the door shut now that he lives in Lake Placid.

 

Last year my son broke the record for the 4th grade 800 yard run by 16 seconds.

 

On a pack of family camping trip my son pitches his own tent, arranges his gear and is self sufficient.

 

When meeting new adults or kids he extends his hand looks people in the face and says hello.

 

He holds doors for those less physically able than himself.

 

He gets great grades in school, plays LL baseball, travel soccor, swims at the YMCA, runs on a school 5k team, obviously in Scouts

 

If every kid in America was like him we'd be going to geekhell in a handbasket.

 

As a leader, some may say I am reliving my childhood.

 

I like to believe I'm facilitating fun, adventure, American values, virtue, compassion,and a manly role model for 10 boys. Some of which don't have a father.

 

As for me I served 4 years on active duty and 9 years in the reserves(Marine Corps(happy Birthday to all you devil dogs)), have been to two small American Wars, have been with the infantry in deserts and above the Arctic Circle(twice). Suffered through many training excercises in many types of weather.

 

But I'm just a geek?

 

I'd better go before I continue the rant with some unscoutlike words directed towards your Mrs.

I don't know what planet you live on but Scouting is a positive thing in Castleton NY. The politicians in our county are crooks but we have a great Scouting program and you are always welcome to join.

 

Do all the helpers in your pack look like they straggled in from the Little Big Horn full of arrows in the back?(no offense meant to the native folks that were being exterminated at the time, IF THEY ONLY HAD COMPOUND BOWS!)

 

Is the COR waiting for three pages of violations???????

 

Run, Run very fast. Grab your kid up as fast as you can, sometimes spectators get hurt watchin' gun fights!

 

Get a life jacket and move to the life boat quickly.

 

Good luck and God bless you.

You just about have them all.

There is similar thread on the Woodbadge forum right now.

 

Three beliefs beyond the Scout oath and law are required.

 

1> Your son and my son deserve a Trained leader. Let us do EVERYTHING in our power to get ALL the leaders and all committee members trained. Have every parent take youth protection online. That Wolf Cub is only going to be 8 for one year, let's give him a year he'll remember forever. He'll turn around and give your grandson something following your example( good or bad)

 

2> If you say you are going to take charge of something and we don't hear from you asking for help, THEN YOU"D BETTER GET IT DONE. It's for the boys- all for the boys. If you don't keep your commitment somebody better be sick or bleeding because there's no other excuse for letting the boys down.

 

3> Our creator has given us all an equal amout of hours in our day. 8 for sleep, 8 for work and the rest to support our kids. We can not expect four people to run a rewarding program for 60 kids. Long before Hilary, the Africans said it takes a village. Every member of the village must give a portion of his or her time and talents to the organization.

 

The old cranky man's rant is over.

I too live near smAlbany,

I'ts not real far but what about Camp Henderson and Cooperstown. BB hall of fame, farmers museum, Fenimore Museum.

We took the Cubs there overnight and they loved it . Henderson folks were very nice.

I'm from New York, the state of confusion, I can only offer a suggestion on looking overseas. Most universities have a service fraternity that is gennerally composed of former Scouts. The local college RPI has scouts from Thailand, Russian and other places. I could not get somebody to help with my diversity goal but your actual mileage may vary. Good Luck.

My wife went to a seminar(she is a speech teacher) about raising kids today and fitness.

 

The speaker said one sentence that said it all

 

TODAY'S KIDS DON"T HAVE SCABS

 

Any normal kids in my rural neighborhood had more scabs and scars than you could count. It was seen as part of growing up. Now only the "skaters" have scabs and the last I check skateboarding was not an aerobic activity.

Before you all defend your skateboading kids let me say I can't ride a skate board and never could. Those kids have great balance.

 

Kids just aren't outside enough to get one scrape a day.

 

Just look at what the trial lawyers have done to the trampoline. Soon pony rides and bicycles will have a safty net.

 

My kid is in travel soccer, baseball,cyo basketball,swim lessons at the Y and is a Webelos scout. He has never gone out saturday morning found 8 friends and played baseball 'til lunch and then whined when he had to come in for dinner or darkness.

 

It also doesn't help them that we feed them the garbage we do.

Hey Cody did you enjoy Happy Land?

 

We had Webelos Woods near Lake George N.Y. this weekend.

We slept in three sided lean-tos and woke to a 1/2 inch of slushy snow. Webelos were fine.

What animal/patrol were you in ?

Was it all you hoped for?

Sam McGee was from Tennessee

We read this to cub Scouts when we do family cabin camping in January

 

I hope you fair better in Tennessee

 

Here's what Robert W. Service thought when he went to Alaska

 

The Cremation of Sam McGee

by Robert W. Service

 

 

Robert W. Service, a Canadian poet and novelist, was known for his ballads of the Yukon. He wrote this narrative poem which is presented here because it is an outstanding example of how sensory stimuli are emphasized and it has a surprise ending.

 

Robert William Service was born in Preston, England, on January 16, 1874. He emigrated to Canada at the age of twenty, in 1894, and settled for a short time on Vancouver Island. He was employed by the Canadian Bank of Commerce in Victoria, B.C., and was later transferred to Whitehorse and then to Dawson in the Yukon. In all, he spent eight years in the Yukon and saw and experienced the difficult times of the miners, trappers, and hunters that he has presented to us in verse.

 

During the Balkan War of 1912-13, Service was a war correspondent to the Toronto Star. He served this paper in the same capacity during World War I, also serving two years as an ambulance driver in the Canadian Army medical corps. He returned to Victoria for a time during World War II, but later lived in retirement on the French Riviera, where he died on September 14, 1958, in Monte Carlo.

 

Sam McGee was a real person, a customer at the Bank of Commerce where Service worked. The Alice May was a real boat, the Olive May, a derelict on Lake Laberge.

 

Anyone who has experienced the bitterness of cold weather and what it can do to a man will empathize with Sam McGees feelings as expressed by Robert Service in this poem.

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are strange things done in the midnight sun

By the men who moil for gold;

The Arctic trails have their secret tales

That would make your blood run cold;

The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,

But the queerest they ever did see

Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge

I cremated Sam McGee.

 

Now Sam McGee was from Tennessee, where the cotton blooms and blows.

Why he left his home in the South to roam round the Pole, God only knows.

He was always cold, but the land of gold seemed to hold him like a spell;

Though hed often say in his homely way that hed sooner live in hell.

 

On a Christmas Day we were mushing our way over the Dawson trail.

Talk of your cold! through the parkas fold it stabbed like a driven nail.

If our eyes wed close, then the lashes froze till sometimes we couldnt see;

It wasnt much fun, but the only one to whimper was Sam McGee.

 

And that very night, as we lay packed tight in our robes beneath the snow,

And the dogs were fed, and the stars oerhead were dancing heel and toe,

He turned to me, and Cap, says he, Ill cash in this trip, I guess;

And if I do, Im asking that you wont refuse my last request.

 

Well, he seemed so low that I couldnt say no; then he says with a sort of moan:

Its the cursed cold, and its got right hold till Im chilled clean through to the bone.

Yet taint being dead--its my awful dread of the icy grave that pains;

So I want you to swear that, foul or fair, youll cremate my last remains.

 

A pals last need is a thing to heed, so I swore I would not fail;

And we started on at the streak of dawn; but God! he looked ghastly pale.

He crouched on the sleigh, and he raved all day of his home in Tennessee;

And before nightfall a corpse was all that was left of Sam McGee.

 

There wasnt a breath in that land of death, and I hurried, horror-driven,

With a corpse half hid that I couldnt get rid, because of a promise given;

It was lashed to the sleigh, and it seemed to say: You may tax your brawn and brains,

But you promised true, and its up to you to cremate those last remains.

 

Now a promise made is a debt unpaid, and the trail has its own stern code.

In the days to come, though my lips were dumb, in my heart how I cursed that load.

In the long, long night, by the lone firelight, while the huskies, round in a ring,

Howled out their woes to the homeless snowsO God! how I loathed the thing.

 

And every day that quiet clay seemed to heavy and heavier grow;

And on I went, though the dogs were spent and the grub was getting low;

The trail was bad, and I felt half mad, but I swore I would not give in;

And Id often sing to the hateful thing, and it hearkened with a grin.

 

Till I came to the marge of Lake Lebarge, and a derelict there lay;

It was jammed in the ice, but I saw in a trice it was called the Alice May.

And I looked at it, and I thought a bit, and I looked at my frozen chum;

Then Here, said I, with a sudden cry, is my cre-ma-tor-eum.

 

Some planks I tore from the cabin floor, and I lit the boiler fire;

Some coal I found that was lying around, and I heaped the fuel higher;

The flames just soared, and the furnace roaredsuch a blaze you seldom see;

And I burrowed a hole in the glowing coal, and I stuffed in Sam McGee.

 

Then I made a hike, for I didnt like to hear him sizzle so;

And the heavens scowled, and the huskies howled, and the wind began to blow.

It was icy cold, but the hot sweat rolled down my cheeks, and I dont know why;

And the greasy smoke in an inky cloak went streaking down the sky.

 

I do not know how long in the snow I wrestled with grisly fear;

But the stars came out and they danced about ere again I ventured near;

I was sick with dread, but I bravely said: Ill just take a peep inside.

I guess hes cooked, and its time I looked; . . . then the door I opened wide.

 

And there sat Sam, looking cool and calm, in the heart of the furnace roar;

And he wore a smile you could see a mile, and he said: Please close that door.

Its fine in here, but I greatly fear youll let in the cold and storm

Since I left Plumtree, down in Tennessee, its the first time Ive been warm.

 

 

 

There are strange things done in the midnight sun

 

By the men who moil for gold;

The Arctic trails have their secret tales

That would make your blood run cold;

The Northern Lights have seen queer sights,

But the queerest they ever did see

Was that night on the marge of Lake Lebarge

I cremated Sam McGee.

I have only been to Nashville as a child and I swear it was 104 degress in the shade that day.

 

I have also been to Norway(above the Arctic Circle,twice), Minnesota in late December, and upstate NY in winter all with many nights in a sleeping bag.

 

Here's some tips:

 

1.)The prior mentioned fleece is a great tip WD! And probably all you'll need in addition to the hat.

 

2.) do folks have watch caps or winter hats in Tenn.?

If so, wear one to bed, you'll have hat head but you'll be warm.

 

3.) Eat something before you turn in. your body will burn that fuel while you sleep. A snicker bar is a good choice!

 

4.) Take an iron containing vitamin now, & for a few days leading up to the course. Most women are cold because of iron poor blood.

 

5.) wear dry thick socks to bed.

 

6.) Drink something hot prior to turning in, but not so much that you have to go before morning. Not a caffine drink or you'll surely need to get up prior to morning.

 

7.) If you are really desperate heat water and put it in a Nalgene like a hot water bottle.

 

8.) When you first get in the bag run in place , if the bag is big enough, to generate some heat.

 

Above all keep the sleeping bag dry.

 

If all of the above don't work, you must have forged the Doctor's signature on the Class III. You have no pulse or very bad circulation. Just kidding.

 

Best of luck and enjoy the course! maybe you'll be: uz2bnowl version 2.0

 

I took the course as a Cub Scouter too. You'll learn alot about Boy Scouts. Enjoy!!!!!!!!!!

 

This seems to be the place where the most experienced folks hang oout so I hope you'll indulge me.

Does anybody have a copy of the old Boy's life reprint for canoeing? It reportedly had plans for a kayak in there. I recently purchased one of those and I'd like to find out more about it.

What weight will it carry?

How is the canvas applied?

How is the canvas treated?

Please email me through my user account. Thank you.

I proofread this morning.

I don't know how the little blue face got there.

It's supposed to be a parenthesis(

Background:

Last year our pack had a picnic at Thatcher Park near Albany, NY. One event was a compass exercise where boys were given an azimuth to follow with a silva type compass. If the boy finds the right direction some treats were located just out of sight in a treeline.

 

We matched up second year Webelos with soon to be Tigers who were having their first Scouting event.

The boys had fun . The Webelos liked leading.

 

Last pack meeting:

The kindergarten boy that my Weeb son was matched up with is now a Tiger Cub. Orange Necker and all. That tiger cub was telling his friend about the picnic and with pride and a small amount of hero worship he pointed out "his Webelos". He bragged about knowing how to use a compass.

 

Today:

My son met the Tiger's Grandmother. She was very thankful for the picnic and the good time that we had. She told my son how happy the Tiger was to have help from an older boy and how nice he was.

 

Moments later:(Grandma had ducked into the local bank)

I thought the kid's head swelled two sizes. With a big smile he said. "That made me really happy that she said he had so much fun".

I think that my son found out what BP was talking about in his last letter.

Thank you Scouters everywhere for giving my son that opportunity.

Thank you for the reference.

 

Wow, I worked 18 months less 7 days for a pair of WUSS badge beads.

This old course, new Course BS is just that.

Sounds like a bunch of old Veterans cussin' about today's armed forces.

 

I took the only wood Badge course that was offered. I'll not listen to those who say I got off easy.

 

I just seems to me that there might be a shortage of course staffers. By the effective date we'll have had about 110 attendees and 40 some staff. Considering all WB's are not fit to be staff and all staff cannot be expected to serve as staff over and over. I looks as though it could be a tough future.

Let me clarify this with a question.

 

If Bill Hillcourt were alive today, after 2006 he could not staff a WB Course?

 

Sounds like the minority (21st Century) will be the only ones eligible to staff, whilst the majority("old WB receipients) and most experienced are no longer qualified???

 

Do you have a link for this or can you tell us which publication this is from so you can site this chapter and verse?

 

Thank you.

 

 

In Phase three of the new Shady Pines developement,if you are the only eight year old to be carrying a pocket knife and your mother knows it; you might be a cub scout

 

 

If alka selter tablets and a fuji film container is your idea of a "hot time " on a Friday night..you might be a Cub Scout.

 

If you think your Den Chief can do just about everything your Dad is capable of...you might be a Cub Scout.

 

If you stop to have an imaginary light saber battle during craft activities...you might be a Cub Scout.

 

If you can remember every Neopet character's name and skils ablities but always leave out four points of the Scout law...you might be a second year Webelos.

 

If you still believe that child eating bears are in all the outdoors except the school yard ...you might be a cub Scout.

 

If you think Thrifty means the same as shifty just because it ryhmes ...you might be a second year Webelos.

 

If you can't stop waving to your Den Leader during church ...you might be a Cub Scout.

 

If you say, "That's not fair" more than twice during any competitive game...you might be a Cub Scout.

 

If you think jokes in the back of Boy's Life really are funny...you might be a Cub scout

 

 

 

If you hop around during a Den meeting because your bladder is full and you won't leave the room because you'll miss somthing...you might be a Cub Scout.

 

 

 

 

 

Time for a lighter topic.

 

Doing a take-off on the Jeff Foxwothy Redneck saying here goes:

 

 

If you hear a boy arguing about whether the gadget on his crystal radio is a diode or a variable capacitor, then he might be a cub Scout.

 

If you hear a 10 year old boy tell his mother, "I'm not afraid to go campout in the woods Mom, I'm a man. Then he might be a Cub Scout.

 

Anybody got anymore?

 

 

 

 

My son will be working with his uncle(I think it is N2USM ) on that day.

 

Anybody else going to be there? What frequency or type of radio will you use?

This year we are going to plan a workshop to rough out the cars for the boy.

 

 

 

The ultimate crime in cub scouts is to see the boys that actually work on their car see the cars that were built by men.

The next year those parents with distraught boys use any means they can to get their boys car to go faster. The problem feeds on itself.

 

I HAVE NO GOOD SOLUTION. There have been good suggestions by many here.

Our "Outlaw" class has no restriction. One year I wrapped the block with duct tape and four POUNDS of lead bars(I called it "just plain ugly") I thought it would fly right through the wall. it wound up being too heavy for the wheels.

Another Dad made a snowboarder from a GI JOE that stood atop the car. Each run it made it half way down the track and wrecked just like "the agony of defeat." The kids loved it.

I agree, Scoutnut, kind of like when the newsman on TV says, "the man then fell out of the window onto a CEMENT slab"

 

Most journalist can't talk no good english.

I had a link for a disected first class badge to teach the parts of the badge. Now that I need it the link is no longer active.

 

I wanted to have the boys glue the parts to a manila folder backer and be able to explain and then lay out the parts.

 

I can make my own but if one already exists on the web that google hasn't found please let me know.

 

Thank you in advance for any help rendered.