nldscout

What we do for the webelos is Invite them to the Klondike derby. They are scheduled to arrive 30 minutes after the Boy scouts start the stations. The morning is dedicated to separate Webelos events, that are part teaching, part skills testing. We take care of Lunch for webelos and make sure they get to see all the cooking the boys are doing for lunch competition as lunch for the Scouts is a graded event. Then after lunch They get to visit the stations for a tryout type to see how and what its all about. Of course if there is a patrol at the station they get first priority. Then they get to stay for closing and our short campfire. It has worked well the last couple of years for us.

Where does it say Webelos can not attend and view a klondike derby. We still do it with seperate events for the Webelos. We are planning on it again this year

I think this is council dependent. Our council knows nothing of this requirement. And quite frankly with the record keeping I have seen at some places I would not be readily willing to give mine. Think about it, your application with SSN on it has everything you need to steal someones ID. It is going to take some to convince me to give it to them readily.

This appears to be someones idea of how to do JLT. Looks like its just a councils rendition of Week long JLTC. although not a nationally recognized training program it appears to be a good additional resource. Looks like 4 councils are using it in 02.

Paul

Make sure you stress to the parents how important a proper fold on the packet is, otherwise burned food will be the order of the day.

As far as heat, charcoal is the only way to go, when its all burned up the ashes are easy to scatter and cleanup is easy.

Last December we did a Cub Scout Outdoor Skills Day for our district. The lunch Was Hobo/Foil dinners. We did 350 people in about 1 1/2-2 hrs. Each cub den had 2 leaders/parents that we instructed on making and folding the dinners. After each cub made his own dinner the leader took them to the fire pit wher we layed them out in groups. Each was marked with Magic marker on both sides with the cubs initials. The leader timed there group and Boy scouts with hot gloves flipped them. Worked fairly well with out too many problems. The fire pit was foil layed on Gravel parking lot 3 ft wide and 60 ft long. It took almost 300 lbs of charcoal. It was a sight to see.

Paul Lamson

In our Troop its the parents, with the SM and committee helping who deceide what kind of COH they want. If the scouts want separate, then have 2. If the scouts want joint then one it is.

I looked in my books, I see no reference to age, 13 by 1 Jan except at national bases that set a minimum age. I would like to know what rule your looking at

There are 30 standard Patrol Patches. And they sell a blank one to make your own. We have a patrol thats called the Glazed doughnuts. We used Gel Paint and they designed and made the patch using the Blank ones. Was reletivley easy. Have the boys design it and practice with the gel paints on something before you do the actual patch.

In addition you can sometimes get Canadian patches or even australian ones.

Paul

Our council the year after our merger tried to idea of having everyone send in 100% of the money and return to us the profit. It caused such an uproar that they quit it after that year.

I realize that all units don't like to sell popcorn because they think they can do better with something else, and probably can for the unit. However most council depend on the profit that they recieve from popcorn to finance a portion of programs. So in essence those that choose not to sell popcorn and do not make an equal contibution to the council are getting a free ride on the backs of all the scouts that are doing thier best to support the troop and council. Remember folks all those programs we enjoy are not free and popcorn profit at council level supports then greatly

We purchased 4 of the 4 man tents from Tentsonsale. They have worked out just fine. They are the same size foot print at a Eureka. The thing I like about them is the rain fly goes all the way to the ground all the way around and has a small built in vestible.

mom22scouts,

Why would you stay in a troop that has that kind of attitude towards ladies? Is it an LDS troop by chance? Other than that, I would find a new troop willing to allow all qualified leaders to attend.

We allow them for long trips, but to prevent theft we keep them locked in cars.

We do a game night every quarter and let them bring all the electronics they want. The funny thing is they start with them and end up with board games or cards before meeeting is over.

Like I said earlier, all we have heard is the one side of the story. It would be great to know where this troop is and hear the whole story. MAYBE there is a policy that this parent just didn't listen too as most do.

Most troops in outr area will not alllow you to take scout account money when you transfer.

This sounds to me like a lot of selfserving sniveling and whineing. Oh we don't like the rules so lets move on and oh by the way lets trash the troop as we leave.

All you acn do is tell him that scouting is for the boys. Adults sometimes have to put their dislikes for each other aside in order to support the boys. But I must tell you it sounds like you will lose this one as he seems bound and determined to not let his son around him. As him if he has some hard facts to share.

We had an instance in out troop where a W2 dad signed up when his son crossed over. This Dad and another ASM had had a dispute 15 yrs before and they still held a grudge over it. Even though his wife talked to him the ASM stepped down, said he would not serve with this dad. Fortuanatly his sons stayed and one went on to become an Eagle scout.

All you can do is try and convince him to separate scouts from his personnal grudge.

Paul Lamson

SM, T21

I will take the knot, thanks

The problem with this issue is there is no middle ground. Some of us feel it is an ugly terrible thing to be gay, some see nothing wrong with it. There will never be a satisfactory resolution to this issue.

If BSA changed it would tear the organiztion apart. A lot of scouters, scouts, supporters and CO would drop.

Its to bad it just went as far as it did.

Passing the knot now.

Well then I guess the 2 very sucessful troops in our district that have females as SM's must be wrong?

I don't know anyone here that would trade in either of them. Both do a great job.

Paul Lamson

An Army wool blanket is one of the best to use. Its tough, takes the punishment and will last for years. You can find them at surplus stores or online stores like sportsmans guide.

Funny, when we visited the statue last year the all were clothed. Sounds like someone is pulling your chain.

Like I said in my earlier post, it sure would be nice to hear the troops side of the story. How many of us have told a ascout or parent something, only to have them come back in a month professing no knowledge of it. We give them calenders that shows activities and they still want to know why know one called them to tell them we were doing something.

I have to agree with Bob, sending them to a troop would be a problem. As a Scoutmaster I think that this would cause some problems. 10yr olds are not ready for a normal troop program, especially an active troop problem.

You can't take the AOL award away from them now that you have awarded it. Sounds like earning the 20 pins was all they did, there are lots of things you could do for the next 6-8 months with them.

The only thing I think that you should have done in hindsight, and you know what they say about hindsight, I would have found the camp Ranger to help Back me up.

I agree, if the CC and COR do nothing about it I would find a new pack.

One important thing that is missing is the troops side of the story. Everyone is assuming that what we have been told is 100% true. It would be nice to hear the total story before we condem them, advise people to sue, or take other actions. Maybe there is a troop policy that we have not been told about, as Paul Harvey says " And now for the rest of the story"...........

I wonder all this time who has been signing the advancement reports and what names are being put on there for the Board of reveiw? I am surprised the registrar has not noticed something.