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  1. Eagle54 As Bob said, Axes and Saws are tools that have they own uses. Personally speaking, we don't use bow saws because we have realised we really don't need them, we prefer to use hand saws like the ones used to cut pumpkins, those are more portable and we feel more comfortable with them. Regarding personal protection equipment we use only gloves, those cheap white ones, to avoid blistering, more than equipment is important a safe actitude towards your work, concentration, looking around, etc. Regarding axes, again the most important is a safe actitude, being aware of the pow
  2. Lets see, from april 2003 - jan 2004 (our current scout year) "passing" group camp in tents at the beginig of the year 2 nights - 3 days Winter group camp in cabins 2 nights - 3 days Spring troop camp 1 night - 2 days (usually adventure camp, yerbaloca (3400 masl) this year) Group birthday camp in tents and usually 2 nights - 3 days (cancelled this year) Summer troop raid 4 nights - 5 days (prior to summer camp) Summer group camp 15 nights - 15 days (the troop arrives to base camp at the end of it's first raid) So we have about 24 nights - 31 days (This message h
  3. I probably didn't express myself correctly. First there were no girls present, when I mentioned the girls I was thinking in a GS patrol and how they could face the same situation. Second it was not Mountain Climbing, is kind of dificult for me to explain but is like this, during a game that involved running and started in a relatively plain area on scout "scaped" from another towards a mountain and while that zone was off limits he was to involved into the game and didn't realize it and then he fell down the side of the mountain, it was not an abrupt fall but more like rolling down t
  4. and the duty of adults. This comes from a another thread were the issue of wether there should or should not be activities (like campings or night outs) were the boys (and girls of course) should be unsupervised and in wich conditions. My point is what is the limit on the responsability we should allow the kids to take, "allowing the kids to take responsability" may sound weird so I'll elaborate; when I was a scout we had a very serious accident, a boy fell from the side of a very steep mountain and sustained heavy injuries, he was with another boy that seeing that entered into shock
  5. Mr White (may I call you Bob?) I'm from Chile, and actually I've noticed that here boy scout programme has a lot of things from your girls scouts ! (hope they boys on my troop don't ever read that or I'm dead meat ) As I said I agree with you and on this and many (but not all) of the things I've read on your post, in particular I think that solitary experiences (patrol or personal , (but I'd prefer as a leader at least two persons) are really worth it, including the potential risk, my troop did it for years and we never got any accident (at least not alone, we did have some but alwa
  6. When I was a boy during summer camp we used to go away for one or two nights alone in patrols, and a requierment to the two last ranks (Eagle and Condor) was camping alone (during a summer camp usually) for two and three nights respectively, we had great. But now as a SM (technically ASM but in our group there is no distinction between them) we don't allow them to go camping alone, personally I think it would be a good idea that they did, but the rest of the staff disagrees , and they do have some good points, we are responsible for them in front of their parents, if an accident should ha
  7. Victory? Victory is static, once achieved it's gone, only a memory... sometimes material for history books. Development of character, that's something that doesn't start at age 11 and certainly doesn't stop when drinking and voting becomes legal for you. The core of scouting is that, development of character, it's not program , not even method but development of character. So, there is no posible Victory to accomplish, winning in a competition is of course a victory, but not The Victory just an accomplisment, just a candle compared with the sun to wich we aspire. That said, of cour
  8. are this standard medical forms ? Could someone please post a link to them , because we do our own medical forms ourselves and sometimes I think they could be improved, thanks
  9. This might be longer than the rest, but still it only takes a minute to read [iF] If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you But make allowance for their doubting too, If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or being hated, don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise: If you can dream--and not make dreams your master, If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with Triumph
  10. SPL I was a member of a co-ed scout unit that is (i think) similar to venturing, you'll find that the girls knowledge or lack of it of camping skills is not really a problem, if they know to good, if they don't they will learn without much effort, learning to light a fire with wet wood might be challenging but it only takes you to be willing. Our unit was heavly focused on comunity service , tho camping was still important, and they were very helpfull in both. At the end I advice you to accept all girls that are interested and of an appropiate age level for yor unit, you won't be disapoi
  11. Hello What's the usual profile of a SL at your group ? Here there are two usual profiles, in the first most of the leaders are between 18-25 ( I belong to that group) , are usually studing and "retire" scouting before finishing their studies, almost all of us are volunteers (i.e. recive no money whatsoever, except in some cases were bus fare is paid ) and anoter group where the leaders tend to be older, sometimes parents of the scouts but most of the times members of comunity organizatuions like churches or schools, I think that still most of them are voluntary but less than in the f
  12. Thanks packsaddle, most (95%) groups here are co-ed, it's not mandatory to be co-ed but it's the prefered choice. The usual scout group structure is like this boys girls manada de lobatos 7-11 bandada de golondrinas tropa de scouts 11-15 compaia de guias and the Ruta is a mixed unit with boys and girls aged 15-17, not all Rutas are co-ed, but it's quite comon that way. Personally I like it this way, it's good for both girls and boys and it dosn't cause much trouble to the leaders. At an organizational level there is one c
  13. Hello guys I'm a Scout Leader from Chile and found this site while looking for some cooking recipies and thought it would be iteresting to know how scouting is done in other parts of the world I tried looking if this site is particular to a region or country but couldn't find a faq about the sites purpose, so if I'm intruding or anything I hope you excuse me nivipi PS No one knows some good recipies for cooking with coals ?
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