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i dont think there is any reason to remove it. i see nothing wrong with it. i thought it was funny.

just did a Cheat River trip, last weekend, on sunday. we did it with Laurel Highlands. It was am awesome trip. the river was at 5+ feet (for any one who dosent know, the highest the will run is 7 feet). there were around 6-7 class V's, and 2 or 3 class V+'s. there was a rapid called Big Nasty. it had a huge hydrolic that you were suppossed to either hit straight on, or go around it. well, we hit it at kinda of an angle. the raft went up on its side, almost all the way over. we all fell out, except for the guide. 3 out of the 4 peole got caught in the washing machine, and were stuck there for about 10 seconds. it really sucked when that happened. we all got back in and kept going. it was a great trip, and the guides couldnt have been nicer or better. i would reccommend this trip to all adventure patrols, but be warned that you should be able to swim if you go.

i guess its off to the Gauley this Fall. does anyone know of any good outfitters for this?

thanks

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I personally would like to thank all the vetrans that are reading this. I can't even imagine where we would be if you guys hadn't gone to war, and fought for this wonderful country. To those of you who lost family members who were fighting in the war, I'm deeply sorry for your loss, they fought for what they believed in, and died doing it. To me there is no greater sacrifice.

A few year back, at one of the camporees, they planned a ceremony you honor vetrans. At the end, all the scouts were given a chance to go and thank them. It was an honor for me to shake their hands.

Happy Memorial Day

i have read else where that you shouldnt wear both the meritbadge sash, and the OA sash, at the same time. which one do you wear when? does one have more importance than the other?

well, speaking from a scouts view, i would only take enough shorts/pants for the days he is gonna be there. last year, i took 3 shorts, and 2 long pants. i took enough underwear, and socks for the whole week though. for shirts, i packed 6 or 7 short sleeves, 2 sweatshirts, and 1 or 2 long sleeve shirts. i also threw in a towel, wash cloth, soap, bathing suit, scout shirt,and scout shorts. a rain coat/poncho is also a nice thing to have.clothes can be worn 2 days in a row, if they arent too dirty, or they can be aired out for a day, and then worn the next. as far as the showering goes, i personally took a shower every other day, if not every day (really wakes you up in the morning), partly because i know what a week without showering can do to you. how much a boy showers depends on them.

to pack it, i would put it in a 2 gallon ziplock, one for each day. i didnt do this last year, but i just barely made my pack fit under the bunk.

i can see where some of you guys are coming from, saying that your boys just went through a growth spurt. it was the same with me, last year. i grew a bunch, and it wasnt time for new clothes yet. in that case, just send what you have.

well, ive only been in the troop for a couple of years. only been to camp one of the years. Went to Camp Hank Forker, Cochranton PA (AKA custaloga town). went last year, going again this year. really nice camp, anyone ever been there?

i would reccommend Eureka's. we have one for the family that is a 6 or 8 person, that we have had since i was 6 or 7. we have had that out in all types of weather, and it still stands up. few years back, at family renuion, couple of tornadoes passed through not far from where we were. our tent was the only tent left standing after it was all over. on the troop level, that is all we have (small eureka's). we have new ones, and old ones. the old ones are probably about 25 yrs. old. they are still in usable condition. they are built well enough to camp in a blizzard, a pouring rain, or blistering heat.

i would definitely check the NRA. i think our rifle mb counsler last year said that that was where most of ours came from. i would also call/email different cartridge companies, and see if they would donate some ammo, or give you a discount.

"Do you actually believe that what you bury stays buried? Some animal will eventually find it and just dig it up."

not if you bury it deep enough. this is what we did. we went back last year to places where we had buried stuuf, and the ground was undisturbed there.

"LNT says to minimize use and impact of fires. They suggest that the fuel used in a fire be no thicker than your wrist. Using that guide line the fire will probably not get hot enough to reduce paper to fine ash. "

up in NH, on the AT we could only burn things less than 2in. in diameter. this was enough to get a hot fire. we got the fire hot enough to burn paper to fine ash, as well as melting aluminum down to almost nothing.

"I recently took 4 scouts on a 5 day 30 mile backpacking trip on the AT in NJ. 6 people(2 adults,4scouts) we did not fill 2 1 gallon bags of garbage. As scheining said if you plan properly there is little to take out."

well, for starters, each time we went up to NH, on the AT, we had at least 13 people with us. then, we ate things that were mostly packed in plastic and aluminum. you know how hardit would be to pack all that stuff out? we mostly burnt the junk, and whaw we couldn't, we buried in EXTREMELY small quanities, and in EXTREMELY remote locations, sometimes 1-2 miles away from camp.

i have nothing wrong with burning, as long as most of the garbage is reduced, or totally burnt up. the only kind of things i have a problem burning, are things like batteries, pressure treated wood, styrofoam, and other things that make a huge mess, and pollute everything.

schleining- what kind of foods do you hike with? i would be interested in it, if it is as good as it sounds.

i know many people in our troop that smoke/chew (sometimes on troop activites). these include adult leaders as well as scouts (18 and under). i was wondering if there is any policy that would prohibit this, either on the scout level, or on the adult level.(This message has been edited by hacimsaalk12)

i know im just jumping in on the end of this, but put it this way, what is so good about being gay?

why not just have a normal relationship w/ a girl? as far as im concerned, gays are gay because they are A. they are too chicken to have anything to do w/ the oposite sex B. they have terrible skills when it comes towards the opposite sex C. the are just really, really sick.

if any of you have done any major hiking ( like on the AT, north country trail, ect.), you would know how important it is to have a light pack. hauling around all your garbage is almost impossible, for one it is a good way to get bears in your camp, #2 you either bury or burn most of it. it doesnt hurt the ground if you bury it (it meaning small amounts of aluminum foil), or burn it. #3, it usually ends up getting all over your pack, and making a great mess of it.

thats just what i think, and thats how we do it when we go hiking for long distances

both my parents are mb counslers for our troop. scheduling a mb with them is a lot easier than with the other mb counslers. is it alright that i do mb's with them, as long as there is another scout here to say that i did the work?

welcome to both of you. i hope you find this site interesting as well as informative. enjoy your stay.

welcome, from the state 2 doors down. hope you enjoy your self.

"My thought is the fire will destroy the food odor you would get with packing 2-3 day old garbage around." this is very true. when we hike up in NH, we burn what we can, and things like the aluminum foil packages, we even will burn just to remove the scent of food.

i find nothing wrong with burning trash. as long as the conditions are right, such as no wind, no burn bans, there is a fire ring of some kind, and it is done in the right way.

"A scout is thrifty. Sell popcorn" popcorn is so expensive its not even funny. ayone who buys that, loses 5-6 bucks

i think this would be a good idea, if you worked out a way to make it cheaper. personally in our troop, and area, popcorn doesnt sell at all. 1st, it is too expensive. 2nd most people still have popcorn from last year. 3rd people usually only buy from us because we are scouts.

im pretty sure we make more money off beefsticks, than popcorn(This message has been edited by hacimsaalk12)

i was just reading through, and i started thinking after i read a post that said if an adult looking at legal porn, it was alright. then, is it allright for a minor (scout)to view it? would that violate anything?

well, to start things out, we are going whitewater rafting on the Cheat on the 22nd. then, in july we are going to do part of the AT, in maine. sometime in august, we are going on a long canoe trip. then in sept or oct. we are going on the gauley. all summer long we are also running a rifle and shotgun shooting program.

not trying to be nosy or anything, but what do you guys make a week. i know here, it is something like $100 a week, your 1st year. it goes up for every consecutive year you work there.

i was also wondering how hard it is for a SPL who is working on eagle to work at summer camp. i know it takes them away for a while, but is it possible to do?(This message has been edited by hacimsaalk12)

i didnt want it to sound like the committee was a hurdle, i meant that in our troop, according to the bylaws, these things have to be approved by them.

oldgreyeagle- i know they work for me, but i just felt like they were talking about things i shouldnt hear, such as finances, troop problems, charter problems, ect. there was just that feel in the air, that people really didnt feel comfortable with me being there (if you know what i mean). i dont think i will ever attend one again, unless i have another boy (SPL, or other person of authority)

in our troop, the spl is only allowed attending when

A. he needs approval for a fundraiser

B. he needs a approval for new equip

C. he is presenting the yearly schedule.

i attended the last one, b/c im the leader of the adventure patrol, and we want to start a shooting program, so we had to get approval.

i went, and being the only boy there, i felt extremely out of place. i dont think spls should be there unless there is a good reason. things are often disscussed that boys arent meant to hear.

i have boots made by quest. i think Dicks sells them. they were around $35. they have been on the roughtest part of the AT, and are about to do another part of the AT again this summer. with how much ive ruffed them up, im amazed that they still are in working order