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As others have explained, the purpose of BALOO is to introduce Cub Scouters to pack family camping -- it was never intended to cover Webelos Den Camping. National does not require that a WDL have BALOO in order to take his or her den camping. Of course, councils can add more restrictive requirements, but frankly, I think its stupid to require a WDL to have BALOO in order to go den camping. I know that's not a Scout-like attitude, but its stupid nonetheless. The audience for BALOO is not WDLs, and BALOO does not talk about the outdoor Webelos activity pins. There's no other way to

BDPT00, as I tried to explain two posts back, the only reason to go to Jump Start is to get the Admonition to get access to the protected discussion forums. As you found, the access code for the Jump Start site isn't hard to get, if you have the HB. But that's only a means to get to the real password, which is the Admonition. That's the focus of the discussion -- the other is just a means to get to that end. I think we are all on the same page.

BDPT00, welcome to the Forums. The "password" being requested is the one to get into the protected OA Discussion Forum. As the OA Forum page says, the password to get into the protected area is the Admonition. So yes, we are using the two words interchangeably. Of course, "Admonition" is not the password -- the password is the Indian word for the Admonition. What we've been discussing is how a new OA member can find the correct spelling (and pronunciation) of the Admonition by starting with the OA HB and going to the OA Jump Start webpage. The Admonition is not on the mem

jr56: I think the answer is: don't do anything until told otherwise by someone in authority or until you see it in writing. Has anyone told you to get rid of your old uniform? If not, then keep wearing it. Has anybody told you that you must buy and wear the new uniform? If not, then don't do it. I don't understand all this anxiety about the new uniform -- just sit tight and everything will work itself out.

SctDad, ask your OA Advisor to take out his membership card and confirm the Admonition is there -- 'cuz it isn't! Maybe it was on the older OA cards, I don't know -- but its not on the current cards. And the Admonition per se isn't in the OA HB either. You need the OA HB in order to access the OA Jumpstart website; once there, a little fishing around will turn up the spelling and pronunciation of the Admonition. You s/b able to buy a copy of the current OA HB at your Scout Shop if you show your OA membership card.

First, welcome to all the folks who are posting for the first few times, even as I feel saddened at the loss of life caused by this tornado. Scouter&mom, you took the words right out of my mouth: my own son is at NYLT this week (our council calls it "Cedar Badge"). We've had nothing but extremely hot & dry weather, but I worried nonetheless for his safety, albeit from a different set of risk factors. I hope our staff is as prepared to handle an emergency as the Little Sioux staff were.

Fully uniformed Scouter on Deal or No Deal: http://www.nbc.com/Deal_or_No_Deal/video/#mea=262233 Notice the way the ladies are not properly uniformed!

Four confirmed dead in tornado at Boy Scout camp http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080611/NEWS/80611078/ http://tinyurl.com/6aby8g June 11, 2008 A tornado tore through a Boy Scout camp in western Iowa this evening, killing four Scouts and injuring dozens more. The camp is the Little Sioux Scout Ranch, located between Blencoe and Little Sioux, about one hour north of Omaha in Iowa's Loess Hills. Arli Hasbrouck, a spokesperson for the Boy Scouts of America's Mid-American Council in Omaha, confirmed that four Scouts were killed in the tornad

AvidSM: I agree the Safety Afloat training doesn't come right out and say we should check current flow conditions, but it does say this: 7. Planning Float Plan: Obtain current maps and information about the waterway to be traveled. Weather: Check the weather forecast just before setting out, and keep an alert weather eye. Contingencies: Planning must identify possible emergencies and other circumstances that could force a change of plans. Appropriate alternative plans must be developed for each. 8. Equipment All equipment must be suited to the craft, to water conditions .

"Young George Bailey" passes away: Robert J. Anderson, 75; child actor was young George Bailey in 'It's a Wonderful Life' http://tinyurl.com/5mr88e June 8, 2008 By Claire Noland, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer Robert J. Anderson, a former child actor best known for playing the young George Bailey in the 1946 Christmas film classic "It's a Wonderful Life," has died. He was 75. Anderson was 12 when director Frank Capra cast him as Jimmy Stewart's youthful counterpart in the heartwarming tale set in Bedford Falls. As the adult George Bailey contemplates suicide, his

How would that differ from the Whitewater MB?

I'm no canoing expert, but the article questions whether the canoes were appropriate for the fast-running river. As John says, many unanswered questions . . .

OGE: when did a breach of netiquette become "infantile"?

Gee FScouter, what is so "infantile" about calling someone by their name?

According to a reader review at Amazon, Glenn's hometown didn't have a Scout Troop:John Glenn was always the Boy Scout of the astronauts, though interestingly he was never an actual Boy Scout. As we find here, his town didn't have a Boy Scout troupe, though a bunch of his friends and he formed their own, similar organizationhttp://www.amazon.com/John-Glenn-Memoir/dp/0553110748

River safety warnings follow Boy Scout's death June 08, 2008 19:51PM by Peter Zuckerman, The Oregonian Cold, high water on the Clackamas River is treacherous, officials warned after the death of an 11-year-old Boy Scout this weekend. Finn Terry, an 11-year-old who loved poetry, drowned this weekend during a canoe trip with his Boy Scout troop. The canoe -- carrying an unidentified man and Terry -- capsized as it raced down a section of the Clackamas River that sheriff's deputies described as dangerous. The man wasn't seriously injured. Terry and others with Tro

Eleven year-olds routinely spend a week away from mom & dad at their first Boy Scout summer camp; I don't think two weeks for a twelve year-old is too much to expect. The boys will never grow up if not given a chance -- and in addition to the adult leadership, there will also be many older Scouts around to keep an eye on the younger guys. I say let 'em go and enjoy themselves.

And Wally Schirra passed away after the list was compiled.

ASTRONAUTS SCOUTING RECORDS (Includes Current International Astronauts) EAGLE: Current: Bowersox, Chamitoff, Forrester, Fossum, Fullerton, G.H. Johnson, Lindsey, Parazynski, Pettit, Tanner; Former: Adamson, Armstrong, Bagian, Bluford, Brady, Carr, Covey, Creighton, Duke, W. Gregory, Hoffman, Jones, Lee, Lind, Llewellyn (King's Scout, U.K.), Lovell, McCulley, O'Leary, Oswald, Reightler, Searfoss, Truly; Deceased: Carter, Chaffee, Eisele, Griggs, McCool, Onizuka, See, D. Walker LIFE: Current: M. Baker, Brand, Bridges, Casper, F. Gregory, Kregel, W. McArthur, Poindexter, Robinson; Forme

pack: my apologies; after re-reading your last post, I think you were asking about the why source of the original quote (Chief Roberts) felt the way he did, not me, right?

Coast Guard Gives Last Flight To Boy Scouts Jun 8, 2008 12:10 am US/Pacific John Iander SACRAMENTO (CBS13) ― It may be the best field trip ever for some lucky Boy Scouts, but it's a trip that's also coming to an end. Early on a recent Saturday morning about two dozen excited Boy Scouts from Sacramento's Troop 144 arrived at McClellan Airpark. They enjoyed an adventure that may change their lives. These scouts are getting a close-up look at a Coast Guard C-130 Search and Rescue aircraft. Pilot Lieutenant Randall Black and the Coast Guard crew took the Scouts on an

"45 percent of 18-34 year old Americans believe that international law should trump the U.S. Constitution in instances where there is a conflict" That is scary . . . There's gotta be a SM Minute in there someplace -- I wonder what Citizen in the Nation MB counselors think of this? For a copy of the full report, see: http://bradleyproject.org/

The Bradley Project Releases Its Report, 'E Pluribus Unum' - Calls for National Dialogue on America's National Identity http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-03-2008/0004825455&EDATE= http://tinyurl.com/6jrswk Report Finds That America is Facing an Identity Crisis and is in Danger of Becoming Not "From Many, One" - E Pluribus Unum - But Its Opposite, "From One, Many" Jun 3, 2008 PR Newswire (press release), NY Sixty-Three Percent of Americans Believe Our National Identity is Weakening, and One in Four Believe the Nation is So

Despite all the whining about its lack of utility, I wear the current class A when I go camping, so I see no reason why I wouldn't wear the new uniform when I go camping (at such time as I need to buy another one).

pack, you read the article, right? You posted your own example, right? And you ask me why I feel this way? Like you, I think most people are not immoral, but I still think the vast majority of people would do exactly what those in the article did -- nothing! Four people thought they did their duty by calling 911; other than that, they didn't get involved. It is truly a sad commentary on our society today, and our lack of compassion for our fellow man. I do hope and pray that BSA is making a difference. If I didn't feel that way, I wouldn't stay involved.