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fgoodwin, Im just telling you what the BSA has posted on the matter themselves at their own Website. Nothing more, nothing less. The point of my post, wasnt so much a legal opinion (I am a proud non-lawyer!) but rather a counter statement to the post earlier that pohsuwed had done something dishonest by using BSA logos on his website. I argue that isnt necessarily the case based on what the BSA's Website states about the use of its logos/images. I see a significant number of "rants" here when it comes to a scout being "Trustworthy" but based on the tone and language of these same

Based on what is posted at the National Website regarding BSA copyright and trademark protection, there is no requirement to get approval prior to using BSA logos etc as long as they are displayed. (See below) From what I can tell from looking at other 3rd party Websites, all that is required is a disclaimer stating this is not an official BSA site. http://www.mothers-pride.com/Pages/OT3%20disclaimer.htm http://www.philmontstaff.org/page.php?page=site/home.php http://www.scouting.org/media/identity/11.aspx Copyright and Trademark Protection The trademarks and log

ALL of our foreign policy problems? Perhaps many of them, even most of them..but not ALL of them. Simple economic theory will drive consumption and innovation.

I have all my training completed and always have for all the positions I have held. Having said that, I do find the BSA approach annoying with regard to record keeping. They have taken attendance and documented every class I've attend. So where did that data go? Every year as part of our recharter packet we turn in a leader training history. Where does that data go? I typically dont have much tolerance for professionals and organizations that can't keep their administrative and business process house in order. The council's and BSA should be breaking their backs to make life easy

Calico.... You forgot about another religion founded by an Eagle Scout....Scientology founded by L. Ron Hubbard.

In reading this thread..all I can say is I wish my District had yall's problems. We have numerous healthy, vibrant and active Troops but I dont we have a single one over 50 boys.

If the unit asked me to step down until my name was cleared.....Even after it was, I wouldnt be back(This message has been edited by erickelly65)

Simply clarifying what, in fact, Ben had stated since the entirity of the initial post was attributed to him.

The first portion of the email is, in fact, from Ben Stein. The later part an addition written by someone else. From Ben Stien's Website: http://www.benstein.com/121805xmas.html Herewith at this happy time of year, a few confessions from my beating heart: I have no freaking clue who Nick and Jessica are. I see them on the cover of People and Us constantly when I am buying my dog biscuits and kitty litter. I often ask the checkers at the grocery stores. They never know who Nick and Jessica are either. Who are they? Will it change my life if I know who they are and why they hav

I think if the scouts got persmission from the owners of the facilities (where the polling places were located) after they had agreed to serve as polling places (and therefore, I assume they agreed abide the polling rules) then the error falls on the owners of the facilities not the scouts. Also, per the Boston Herald article, this wasnt an Eagle project but just a service project being done by the Scouts. In addition this article claims it wasnt that the Scouts hadnt obtained proper approval but that the Election Commission was unable to confirm they had recieved approval. (big differen

So is belief in God also by association belief in Satan? Not necessarily, Gern. God/Satan as discussed is a Judeo-christian concept. Not all of the worlds religious share this belief system.

You probably will be able to confirm it from some governmental website, too, unless you prefer to believe that your own government is forging statistics just because you don't want to believe...cool. But nevertheless, let's get on with the BSA and their right to discriminate. What the heck are you talking about. So far, you've substantiated nothing you've said other then its in some "Federal almanach" or on "some governmental website". You dont get to make sweeping generalizations and leave it up to others disprove it. Now, if you have read much of anything I have written on th

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Well heck, if its written down somewhere, it must be true.

I know that throughout the US a lot of people still never leave their State boundaries... You KNOW that do you?

I have found a new high for salary The American Heart Association: M. Cass Wheeler Executive Director, CEO $873,661

ACLU Salaries - from CharityNavigator (for 2005) Anthony Romero Executive Director $300,000 Other Salaries of Note Steven Shapiro Director of Legal Affairs $200,000 Donna McKay Director of Development $187,000 Emily Tynes Director of Communications $180,000

The key executives of large charitable organizations have large organization's to run and large issues with which to deal. Therefore, you would expect them to compensated for their work. Everything I have read leads me to believe that, while BSA execs are well paid, their salaries arent out of line with other charities. For example the head of United Way (National)made just shy of$400k in 2003. http://www.unitedway.org/About/upload/2003Form990.pdf And, per Charity Navigator, the head of the ACLU made $300K. In 2005, Bill Lucas (then head of my council (SHAC)), made $285k (w

Oh come'on Tjhammer. I find it hard to believe that a bunch of atheist so steeled and confident in their conviction would be stunned and offended by the likes of us simple minded folk believin' in the Big Guy in the Sky. Me thinks though protests too much.

From Merlyns earlier post I had written "However, in the early comments in this thread it was stated that the BSA's statement was "denigrating" to Atheists. I in no way think it meets that definition in fact, tone or intent." Merlyn's reply "Well, I think it does. Saying only theists can be the best kinds of citizens is belittling to non-theists" Well ol Merl', to parrot back what you wrote to me In your post: RE: Philly raises scouts rent $199,999/year Posted: Wednesday, 10/24/2007: 9:39:52 PM And I quote "Oh, too damn bad."

I originally wrote: The program can't include a duty to God and a requirement for Reverence for some and not others so what I am hearing is: To bad for you, your wants/rights/wishes are less important then others." Packsaddle wrote: Really? If it wasn't a requirement wouldn't you continue your religious practices anyway as a personal conviction? For you, in particular, I would think that the 'requirement' is unnecessary. And if unnecessary for you, then why for anyone? My responses: The issue isnt if I would/could continue my religious practices but if I can continue th

You wrote in response to the BSA statement on the "Best kind of citizen" I don't believe that statement is meant as offensive. However, I do believe some people might be offended by it. However, in the early comments in this thread it was stated that the BSA's statement was "denigrating" to Atheists. I in no way think it meets that definition in fact, tone or intent. denigrate 1 : to attack the reputation of : defame

The program include a duty to God ....... Should read - The program can't include a duty to God and a requirement for Reverence for some and not others so what I am hearing is: To bad for you, your wants/rights/wishes are less important then others.

"I am hearing people tell me there is no room in society for a group like this I find that unacceptable." I am curious as to why is it unacceptable for someone else to express an opinion different from yours? Certainly people can have whatever opinion they like. However, the opinion i find being expressed in this case is pushing for changes to a program that, in my opinion, preclude me from instilling through scouting the beliefs and social norms I find so important. The program include a duty to God and a requirement for Reverence for some and not others so what I am hearing

Scoutingagain. You are, no doubt, a VERY wise man!!! "Happy Wife...Happy Life"(This message has been edited by erickelly65)