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    • @vol_scouter and neither do the councils.   IMHO...the only group that benefits from this is the UMC washing their hands of their units some long time ones.
    • We are just back from summer camp.  This is my third camp as support leadership, next year I've raised my hand to take the lead so I'm capturing some of the observations, notes, etc. immediately on return while fresh in my mind because my mind is a sieve I thought I'd post some of the general comments here and see also if I can take advantage of the accumulated wisdom and recent summer experiences of those gathered here.  We had an AMAZING week.  Should note we had over 30 scouts with us, so some of this might be more relevant to a group that size, but still worth sharing.  Will encourage more that Scouts bring "old fashioned games" to camp and considering building a box of them for our trailer.  Chess, dominoes, checkers, packs of cards, LCR, etc.  Once our scouts got their chess boards and sets from the merit badge, which was Thursday night, there were no less than THREE games of chess running in camp at a time.  Magic!  If we had provided that opportunity earlier in the week we would have had more of that I think.  Cheap, easy to pack, durable games like that can be a mainstay in our troop gear as well, providing similar opportunities on most outings.  Will have part of the prep docs and parent conversation be about moderating the games and music sent to camp.  It all needs to be appropriate for 11+ if coming to camp.  What started off as "anyone want to play cards?" turned out to be cards against humanity, which we luckily caught wind of and quickly nipped.  Oof though.  Can you imagine?  I feel like foot locker inspections are draconian, but I am thinking about at least having the quartermaster and SPL have some kind of "health check" as boys report to camp.  "Do you have your hygiene products?  Do you have only age appropriate games?  Do you have food in your footlocker that needs to be squared in the bear box?"  Etc. Air Tags / tiles on high value items like phones and daypacks were clutch.  They will get lost.  99% of the time, they will make their way to main office lost and found.  Being able to KNOW the item is there safe, while allowing the scout to stew about it until daylight was helpful to us.  We could comfortably put off the search (especially in the dark) knowing the expensive / important item would be found in the morning.  It also allowed us to locate a phone that had been dropped in the middle of the woods, presumably during orienteering.  I am fairly sure it would never have been found otherwise.  That parent had the "locate my device" feature on, not the air tag type of service.  They were able to share the exact coordinates and when we got close turn on the screen and sound which enabled us to find it.  I kind of hated the scavenger hunts for devices and property but those tags and services helped tremendously when available.  One scout lost their phone and its battery was dead so the passive tile device on it was key.  This is some insurance a parent can provide that the expensive device will get home.  We can debate the place phones have at summer camp (and my group currently is) but the reality is I think they will be there and there is a use for them at camp (photos, contact sharing with new friends, research in badge classes like oceanography, indian lore, etc) and with youth this age - loss potential is high.  I will say no one over the age of 13 lost their device or daypack or uniform.  It was entirely the younger cadre.  The mature scouts showed they could manage themselves well in this respect, the younger experienced the lessons they need to learn about holding on to property in a relatively safe environment where 9 times out of 10 your [insert precious item here] will be turned in to lost and found vs. kept thanks to everyone being scouts.  Scoutmaster leading made a point to remind ALL scouts if you brought money to camp it is YOUR money.  If you are a young scout and get asked to run an errand by an older scout you are NOT to do it and are to report it to the leaders - no scout is any other scout's errand lackey.  I found that valuable, there was a problem with this on arrival night but never happened again after expectations were properly set. We had an excellent SPL who excelled in the camp setting.  It was crucial to the success of the week. Do you guys do any pre-camp coaching/prep/training for the SPL?  A week at camp is a different beast than a weekend campout or troop meeting.  They are balancing a lot more and have a ton more to manage on top of their classes. These are some initial reflections and ponderings I had.  Curious to know what other pro tips you all have that lead to "magic moments" or that you found particularly beneficial and plan to include in the plan for next time.
    • Risk management in action, which I understand. Public exposure —> Legal risk = financial risk + reputational risk —> deterioration of public trust —> membership decline = financial risk. No? At some point, I think we have to accept this equation as fact. In and of itself it’s not an indictment, but a business mindset decision tree. When you see it on paper next to and weighed against the statements below, it sure looks a lot like an indictment. IMNSHO. Correct. Not just argue, but sincerely wonder why leaders didn’t consider it IF they actually didn’t. I can’t imagine it was never contemplated or mulled over by some leader. If never given a single solitary thought, what does that say. “If we release these or cross-reference this pattern and start ‘warning’ people, we have a lot to lose. (See above) If we don’t, and maintain tight, inner circle confidentiality, the benefit is tangible and the ‘loss’ speculative/uncertain.” Loss being innocence via more abuse. What might they have been thinking, and I mean that literally and sincerely?
    • @johnsch322  is correct.   The BSA fought the release.  When the records were released, most names were redacted if my memory is correct. It is my belief that the BSA did not wish to have the records for precisely the reason that happened after the Oregon case.  Attorneys used the records to find potential clients from what has been intimated to me.   As they found one victim, they could often find more.  It was not an easy task because the records centered on the perpetrator but there might be enough information to link to a chartered organization or unit along with a time frame. I know that a major reason that the BSA had never released the information was this fear. One can see that such a fear of a potential to cause more lawsuits would overwhelm the desire to use the files to inform in order to prevent future occurrences.   The problem is that such fears cannot be logically evaluated or reliable magnitude of effect calculations constructed.  So whether it was a reasonable stance or not will be in the eye of the beholder.  For someone such as @ThenNow , who would likely argue that some sort of scrubbed information could have been released and that someone in the regional office should have found out about the local Scout Executive’s corruption.   For ardent BSA supporters, the more people who would have had some access to the files would have created leaks. It is my belief that some where along the timeline that the BSA should have tried to mine the IVF to try to ferret out bad actors still in the organization and learn who to better protect our youth.
    • That is something really easy to answer. It is your council who carries the liability insurance for the unit no matter the underlying CO. Just ask your DE for a copy naming the building owner as a named party. It is very easy and they do it all the time. 
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