Open Discussion - Program

Hey man, we only get to work when things become a Crisis.  So, until it becomes a crisis, we ain't doin' nothin'. If you follow our philosophy, then all you have to do is Crisis Management.  And when it becomes a Crisis, if you don't want to deal with it, then dump it on someone else and find a new position elsewhere. We just pray there are plenty of fat paychecks in the bank before the Crisis rears its ugly head, and we have to leave. (not having done the Crisis Management we have said we would do 😜 ) Now, pay us your fees and go have fun!! 

I think this is the issue. Due to so many factors we have this atmosphere of permissiveness. Sometimes it's not even permissiveness; it's just burnout. How many of us have reported something because we had valid concern or outright knew someone was willfully violating SYT/YPT or the GTSS and were ignored by people at the district or council level. 

I think your first sentence hits the nail on the head. I would add that before there was any relationship with the US military we at the ground level were already doing the duty.    To your second sentence: I know that my council is in life support mode and is mission inaffective; however, based on what I read online and the interactions I have with other scouters throughout the country I wonder how many (as a percentage of the total units) are not even trying to run the program as designed? I would even go so far as to say originalists that are trying to run things out of the original scoutmasters handbook fall into the program as designed bucket; and, in that situation, are the number of units trying to run the program as designed less than 50%? I horribly fear that to be the case. 

Reality is that we that perpetuate the real programs from our personal trenches locally need to scout on and take aid if we are fortunate from a local council.  Sadly, our local experience is far from positive, though they do pass along most of the National rehash of some older viable options and many, in my view, suspect ideas that tip toe on the edge of real Scouting.  

As told by Scout Evan Franklin. https://www.mariettatimes.com/news/local-news/2025/12/its-all-about-the-experience-parkersburgs-evan-franklin-on-his-journey-to-leadership/