insanescouter Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 I would like to pose a hypothetical question... Lets say BSA or maybe a private company provided the funding to pay one Adult in every Scout Pack, Troop, Crew, etc a full time wage. (This is not like the part time Scout Reach for poor, or troubled areas)... What position would be paid (IE: Scoutmaster, Committee Chair, or maybe a new combined or totally new position)? What would the duties of that position be? My answer would be a new position of sorts that would be a combination between mostly the SM and Committee Chair. Duties would be on the lines of: - Actively work to recruit new Scouts, families and leaders - Actively set up fund raising opportunities - Over see the Troop Committee and The overall Unit Program - Arrange to obtain the necessarily awards and turn in assorted paperwork to Council - Work with volunteers to ensure they are trained in their positions and help them as much as possible to make their jobs smooth (not necessarily easy, but easy and organized as possible to perform) - Attend monthly Roundtables and stay in contact with the Unit Commissioner - Stay on top of and keep the committee informed of upcoming events, things going on at the Schools the unit services (where the kids attend), the location where the unit meets, with their sponsor organization, etc. Ok that is enough to give you all an idea of what the question means... I do not mean this as a debate, but more just a fun question... after all how many leaders do I hear mumble they wish they could do Scouting full time... We all know its one hour a week ... per scout... right? As always my wacky 2 cents .... take it or leave it Scott Robertson http://insanescouter.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GernBlansten Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 If BSA gave my unit a full time paid employee, I think it would be best to have that employee be administrative. We would task him/her with record keeping, scheduling, reservations, permit filing, advancement tracking, membership bookkeeping, communications, newsletter editing. I'd leave program, recruitment, outings, and all the fun stuff to us volunteers. Wow, how's that for wishful thinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanescouter Posted August 24, 2007 Author Share Posted August 24, 2007 GREAT ANSWER... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack378 Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 give me a six figure salary and I would have the best pack ever!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axeman Posted August 25, 2007 Share Posted August 25, 2007 Your hypothetical Scouter has the BSA position code "CR." Scan a copy of BSA publication #33118D, "The Chartered Organization Representative." Refer to the pages listed. - Actively work to recruit new Scouts, families and leaders (page 5) - Actively set up fund raising opportunities (page 7) - Over see the Troop Committee and The overall Unit Program (page 1,2,4,6) - Arrange to obtain the necessarily awards and turn in assorted paperwork to Council (page 5,6,7) - Work with volunteers to ensure they are trained in their positions and help them as much as possible to make their jobs smooth (not necessarily easy, but easy and organized as possible to perform) (page 4,5,6,7) - Attend monthly Roundtables and stay in contact with the Unit Commissioner (page 6,7) - Stay on top of and keep the committee informed of upcoming events, things going on at the Schools the unit services (where the kids attend), the location where the unit meets, with their sponsor organization, etc. (page 2,4,5,6) Easy to describe, difficult to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baden Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 I remember reading somewhere that this was tried in the Los Angeles area in the '50's. As I recall they hired Scoutmasters who were schoolteachers. It wasn't fulltime employment. I believe it was scrapped for many reasons, primarily because the mercenaries didn't feel adequately compensated for the amount of time it took. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-in-KC Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Maybe that's the source of that wonderful quote (everybody say it with me....) ... It's only an hour a week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanescouter Posted August 26, 2007 Author Share Posted August 26, 2007 *repeats with * "its only an hour a week" and then adds "per Scout"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John-in-KC Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Actually, it's 168 - another hour per week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle90 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 DDibben - If you have. or ever find, a COR who is doing all of those things you listed, sign them to a lifetime cvontract. In over 40 years, I've never seen a COR do even 1/4 of that list! And being someone who is temporarily "retired" or in between jobs, where do I sign up for the paid position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozemu Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Oh John - that was good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axeman Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 eagle90 I am our organization's representative (CR). I do all those things (I do not micromanage, however). I attend every unit meeting, committee meeting, campout, fundraiser, recruiting function, school night, camporee, long-term camp, and OA event because I love this Scouting stuff. I also attend every District Committee meeting. Strangely, I am the only CR who attends the meetings. It makes the District Committee fairly uncomfortable. I go to every Roundtable and every training session I can make. I have attended SM/ASM Leader Specific & Outdoor Skills three times, and will attend again this Fall. In a perfect world every CR would be involved. I am a black & white kind of guy; the job description says "do this thing," I do that thing. I would not turn down a paycheck tho, heh. One hour a week...uh huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle90 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 DDibben - I salute you! You are one of a kind! I wish all of our COR's were that dedicated and involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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