Troop trailers towed by summer camp staff.

[yknot]

15 minutes ago, E V Augustine said:

Six years ago I proposed a solution to the concerns you expressed to be applied at the other Council owned camp.  There the camp driving policy was more restrictive and the roads even less well maintained.  The attached Driver's Competence Award concept was submitted to Council and ignored.  I even had a Scouter with a CDL willing to teach the courses.

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It's a great idea and good on you for trying but liability is the issue. They are in no authoritative position to confer any kind of credentialling and if an incident occurs it opens a can of worms that could only lead to enhanced liability. It's easier to just say park it and drive in. 

[InquisitiveScouter]

2 hours ago, yknot said:

It's a great idea and good on you for trying but liability is the issue. They are in no authoritative position to confer any kind of credentialling and if an incident occurs it opens a can of worms that could only lead to enhanced liability. It's easier to just say park it and drive in. 

Your council is "supposed" to have an Enterprise Risk Management Committee that should review this...

Good Luck,

https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/healthsafety/pdf/680-026.pdf

[E V Augustine]

 

16 hours ago, InquisitiveScouter said:

Your council is "supposed" to have an Enterprise Risk Management Committee that should review this...

Good Luck,

https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/healthsafety/pdf/680-026.pdf

Council does have a Unit Safety Director on staff.  I have never seen or heard any indication of a Council Enterprise Risk Management (ERM) Committee.

After a cursory read of the cited document, it does present a broad risk assessment algorithm and fortunately specifies the involvement of subject matter experts.  Rather than ponder the risks of a developing and instituting a camp driver training program I returned to the concerns stated in my posts.

Lake Erie Council has a mandatory policy that summer camp staff tow troop trailers over owned land to the respective troop campsite.  Vehicles used are owned by the adult staff performing the work.  This amounts to towing 75 - 100 trailers owned by as many different entities.  As the troop trailers are in the temporary custody and control of Council employees this circumstance creates a bailee liability for Council.  Generally this form of insurance coverage in not included in general commercial liability policies.  I would expect this matter could be addressed by a phone call to Council's insurance carrier.  The annual premium might be more than a few loads of gravel.

    

[Tron]

In my neck of the woods very few of the councils seem to have all of the mandatory committees. As far as I know, at best my council's safety committee(s) [there are technically two required now] are on paper only, I have never heard of them meeting or putting out anything to the various district committees.