First Black Troop-Elizabeth City, NC

[rayezell_2000]

Hello All,

Can someone provide a more specific date in 1911 when the reported first black troop was established in the US?

Additionally, can you provide a reliable/confirmable source for this date. A quick scour of the usual internet sites use the 1911 date, but I cannot find a reliable citation for a primary source which I can examine for myself. As most of you are probably aware, much of the information surrounding this topic for the early years of the Movement (1910-1930) is anecdotal and overly generalized.

thanks for any help.

[RememberSchiff]

13 minutes ago, rayezell_2000 said:

Hello All,

Can someone provide a more specific date in 1911 when the reported first black troop was established in the US?

Found this

On July 31, 1911, America’s first “Negro Boy Scout” troop was founded.  “Initially started in Elizabeth City, North Carolina, opposition was encountered immediately, but troops continued to meet in increasing numbers.  In 1916, the first official Boy Scout Council-promoted Negro Troop 75 began in Louisville, KY.  By the next year, there were four official black troops in the area. By 1926, there were 248 all-black troops, with 4,923 black scouts and within ten years, there was only one Council in the entire South that refused to accept any Black troops.”^[1]  Included in those 248 all-black troops was Troop No. 7 from Mansfield, Ohio founded in 1925.

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In the early 20th century, the Boy Scouts of America let local councils set their policies when it came to segregation. “Unsurprisingly, many chapters — especially in the segregated South — opted not to admit black Scouts. Some troops imposed long waiting periods before letting blacks join, while others allowed black boys to join but prohibited them from wearing uniforms.” It wasn’t until decades after that first troop formed in 1911 “that many troops eased their rules on segregation, and not until 1974 when the Old Hickory council [in North Carolina] — one of the last segregated Boy Scout councils — finally integrated.”

Source:

https://theshermanroom.wordpress.com/2021/02/11/thompson-jackson-and-mansfields-first-african-american-boy-scout-troop/

[RememberSchiff]

On 11/29/2009 at 10:57 AM, skeptic said:

This is from the National Site some time back. There is also another on-line source I have seen, but have to track it down again.

 

July 31

*The Scout Oath . . . On my honor I will do my best; To do my duty to God and my country; and To obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight. This date celebrates the founding of Americas first "Negro Boy Scout" troop in 1911. Initially started in Elizabeth City, North Carolina, opposition was encountered immediately, but troops continued to meet in increasing numbers. In 1916, the first official Council-promoted Negro Troop 75 in Louisville, Kentucky. By the next year there were four official Black troops in the area. By 1926 there were 248 all-Black troops, with a total of 4,923 Black scouts and within ten years there was only one Council in the entire South that refused to accept any Black troops. During this time as more troops started up, the Inter-racial Committee was established in January of 1927, with Stanley Harris as its leader. Also as part of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) Inter-racial Service was "Program Outreach," a program that combined racial minorities with rural, poor, and handicapped boys. These programs were often ineffective, especially with immigrants who feared the BSA as a means to recruit for the Army. Another problem with Program Outreach was that it often didn't distinguish between the boys it viewed as "less chance" and those who were simply not white. For example, their reports states that about the Scouts in the Program who were considered, "Feeble-minded, Delinquency Areas, Orphanages, and Settlements." Many of the Scouts helped in these groups, who were considered "Delinquent Areas," were Blacks, who were measured as "Special Troops." Instead of embracing Black Scouting, the BSA systematically categorized Blacks. It brought a literal meaning to "racial handicap," as the color of their skin was why they were considered "special." Scouting for minorities wasn't just confined to cities, Scouting in rural areas were also common. One of these programs was called "railroad scouting," where employees of the BSA would ride trains throughout the rural South, stopping at every town on the way to distribute information and encourage the formation of troops. This policy originated to cut down on railroad vandalism, and the BSA realized it was a great way to promote their organization. Also Native Americans were a large portion of the minority Scouts, and lived in settlements in rural areas. With the help of these programs, the two Southern Regions, Region V in Memphis and Region VI in Atlanta, had growth rates of 28.2% and 47.9%, respectively. With the terrible economic conditions in the South during the first half of the 20th century, and the fact that in 1937, 57.9% of Black Scouts were from these two regions. By the 1960's, with the industrialization of the South, the BSA shifted more towards urban expansion and improvement. In 1961 the Inter-Racial Service turned into the Urban Relationship Service, and added inner-city children of all races. William Murray, author of History of the Boy Scouts wrote, "Negro lads in the South and in the northern industrial centers were somewhat out of the stream of American boy life and needed special aid." The Inner-City Rural Program was also developed to expose rural Scouts to the city and vice versa, but was small in scope. Programs targeting gangs were unexpectedly successful, and in many cities as many as 25% of boys living in housing projects were enrolled in the Scouts, many former gang members. In the South, with the "separate but equal" mindset of the times, Black troops were not treated equally. They were often not allowed to wear scout uniforms, and had exceedingly smaller budgets to work with and insufficient facilities. The BSA on a national level was often defensive about their stance on segregation. "The Boy Scouts of America] never drew the color line, but the movement stayed in step with the prevailing mores." Even so, there was only one integrated troop before 1954 in the Deep South compared to the frequent occurrence of integration in the North. Also the Scouts in the South did not support social agencies that were allies of the BSA. The YMCA was historically one of the BSA's strongest supporters, but in Richmond, Virginia, Blacks were not allowed to use the Y's facilities to earn merit badges, specifically for swimming. While nationally the BSA has a large endowment (approximately 2.6 billion dollars), local councils have to raise money on their own. BSA is not a non-profit organization, and if local councils had pushed for integrated troops, it would not have gone over well with the general public, and it would be difficult for them to raise money. It would have been dangerous, because the Ku Klux Klan had strongly denounced the Scouts for even having segregated Black troops. They claimed the BSA was a puppet of the Catholic Church, and it was not unheard of for Scout Jamborees and rallies to be broken up, often violently, by the Klan. After the Civil Rights Act, slowly, troops began to integrate throughout the nation, even in the South. Currently several troops remain all Black. After integration, many segregated Black organizations, especially Churches, remained segregated, not by law but by choice. It provided a heightened sense of community and unity that complemented their internal needs. If they made it this far under such extreme oppression, why should they happily submit themselves to white Churches and social clubs? Since these organizations sponsored such a large number of Scout troops, many remained all Black by choice. In 1974, after fifty-three years of segregation, the Old Hickory Council (North Carolina) and BSA councils throughout the South started to integrate troops. As an organization dedicated to developing morally strong and virtuous men out of boys, the BSA stresses the importance of understanding what it means to be a Scout. When applying for the Eagle Scout Award, the highest rank in Scouting, applicants must submit an essay along with documentation of their earned merit badges. In the essays, Scouts are asked, "In your own words, describe what it would mean to you to become an Eagle Scout." Essay lengths differ greatly, from one sentence to four handwritten pages. Generally, Eagle Award applicants write about what it has meant to work several years to receive this award, and what they plan on doing after the receive it. In the responses immediately following integration, different values and goals emerge based on race and oppression. One young man says, "When applying for a job or trying to enter college being an Eagle Scout is a great advantage." Being white in Winston-Salem, opportunities to go to college and to get a good job were there As a Black young person, such opportunities did not always exist, and instead of mentioning college and a job, there was a tendency to make more references to the army and military. Not necessarily saying outright that a future in the military is what they are striving for, but there are references like, "[if I get my Eagle Award] it will be like an army that had won a war, there will be great joy," and, "becoming an Eagle Scout is like being a Captain or lieutenant in an army, working towards the Generals position." Historically, the military has been one of the few ways Blacks achieved distinction and reverence. These youths had seen their fathers and uncles come back from World War II and the Korean War, with medals and the help of the G.I. Bill. Many saw this as their only way to eventually get into college or have a good career. With the aid of the civil rights movement, Black Scouts saw the Eagle Award is a further means of proving their dignity and achievement. Blacks in the first half of the twentieth century were not allowed much dignity. America and the South, was set up to make sure this dignity was never achieved. Through Scouting, Black young people finally had something to be proud of, something that would make them, in at least one realm, equal or even superior to white children. It gave them a sense of identity that was lacking for centuries, they were no longer just "Boy," they were an Eagle Scout. Before de-segregation, in nearly all white Eagle Scout applications, the essays included references to leadership opportunities to come out of their Award. Leadership is mentioned much less often among the Black applicants, having not seen the same opportunities for leadership in their communities as they progressed through the Scouts. Another theme among the pre-civil rights applications was the frequent mentioning of God and Church in the white applications, compared to the Black applications. The white applications tended to connect God and Country together as an important trait of an Eagle Scout; example. "The Eagle award would show me that I have been doing my duty to God and my Country as a Scout." The Black Scouts did not mention citizenship nearly as often and usually in a secular manner. "I am an American on whom the future of this wonderful Country dependslearning to be of service to others." This distinction was due to the lack of citizenship experienced by Blacks as long as we've been in this country. It is telling that an organization like the Boy Scouts of America, dedicated from its inception to raising men of high moral strength and conviction, supported racism. But at the same time, on a national and local level, the Scouts did have certain leaders that pressed against the grain of society for racial change. In the end, though, our most valuable insight is into the minds of these young black men who wrote of an equal chance for distinction and success in their Eagle Award essays. This relatively small achievement may have helped and inspired them to push on in their fight for liberty. Contributing reference: Kurt Banas, Wake Forest University Winston-Salem, North Carolina

 

 

[rayezell_2000]

I've seen both of these references, but they do not include a citation for where the Elizabeth City dates comes from.

[RememberSchiff]

I have not yet found the scoutmaster, the sponsor, nor unit number which follows from not being an "official" Council troop.

IMHO, would make an interesting "Finding Your Roots" PBS episode with Henry Louis Gates.