donomiser 10 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Can a Scout be registered in a Troop in his hometown and go to a Troop in the next town and work on rank advancement? Also this Scout will go to a District Camporee with his hometown Troop and stay with the other troop. An Adult Leader in the other Troop is related to the Scout. Any advise? Link to post Share on other sites
Pack378 10 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 yes, A boy can be signed off on certain requirements by his piers. Also if a registered adult is there, there should be no question about it. Link to post Share on other sites
mdutch 10 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 The decision of who can sign off on rank advancement is left up to the individual scoutmaster. However, as long as their is no question as to if the scout met the requirements, I see no problems. I also don't know if stuff he does their would count for something like 1st class #3 ("Since joining, have participated in 10 separate troop/patrol activities) Link to post Share on other sites
ScoutNut 147 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Does he do anything with his home Troop? What is his POR with his home Troop? How old is he & how long has he been doing this? Why doesn't he simply register with the other Troop? Link to post Share on other sites
John-in-KC 311 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 What's the backstory here? Are we talking about a youth in an intact family, a youth who splits time with parents due to divorce, ... ??? Some of what we have to say will depend on the circumstances. Since there is a relation, I'd recommend the two Scoutmasters go to a local cafe, have a cup of coffee, and figure out what is in the best interests of the young man in question! Link to post Share on other sites
epalmer84 10 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 We had one a few years ago- bouncing between mom in Virgina and dad in Wisconsin. We just made it a point that it was up to him to keep us updated on his advancement. On this specific issue, dual troop registration may not be the core problem. Ed Link to post Share on other sites
Beavah 205 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Yah, hello donomiser! I'm with J-in-KC, I think yeh gotta let us know what the backstory or concern might be. Technically, the SM of the troop he's registered in gets to decide who can "sign off" on rank requirements, and that same SM gets to approve MB applications. So it'd be OK for his hometown troop not to let a troop where he's only a "guest" sign off on requirements. That'd be pretty unusual, though. It happens pretty frequently that a boy can be a guest of another troop at a camp or camporee, where his SM is just fine with acceptin' signoffs from the other adult leaders of da troop where he was a guest. A boy attending summer camp with another troop, or as a provisional scout, would typically be an example. So would a boy who splits time between mom and dad. A boy can also be dual registered in two troops (like for a split family). In that case, either SM can approve advancement. So yeh pretty much just work out what makes sense for the boy. If he's scammin' advancement from his relative in the other troop, his registered SM can say "no." But if he's workin' hard and has friends in both units, that's great, eh? Your case of the boy comin' to a camporee with one troop and then stayin' with another seems kinda awkward, unless it was worked out in advance. At least, it should be clear to everybody which adults are responsible for the lad, and which troop's duty roster he should show up on . On the other hand, visitin' with other troops is part of the reason we do camporees, eh? Link to post Share on other sites
donomiser 10 Posted July 31, 2007 Author Share Posted July 31, 2007 Scout's family is intact. Father is CM in the home pack and is on TC in home troop. Uncle or cousin or close friend of father is in other troop. Other troop is very active, adult run and has a history of high adventure. Home troop is mostly boy led, may not be as desirable as other troop. Original cub scout den members friends are in home troop. New scouts think it is unfair because they don't have the opportunity like him. What do you say to the SM? Link to post Share on other sites
GernBlansten 10 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 I think the scout needs to make up his mind who HIS troop is and stick with it. We should not support this cafeteria style scouting. Link to post Share on other sites
John-in-KC 311 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Given what you've told us, Scoutmaster should have SM Conference with Scout. Something is driving the boy to distance from the current Troop. SM needs to know that, it's called Feedback and it is a gift. I know I need to give space to my own Eagle son to spread his own wings, and we have a pretty healthy relationship. There may be Dad/son tensions. Link to post Share on other sites
kb6jra 10 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 donomiser, First item, I'd say that's just fine. Scouting is scouting no matter what city you're in. He can get things signed off at other place, but remember at your sm confrence you can see if he actually learned anything without retesting... Second item, I'd have to say to him "stay with your patrol" and get him to visit his relative instead of stay with him. The patrol method relies on the team model and sleeping together, eating together and competing together is all part of that model and method. Good luck Link to post Share on other sites
Aquila 10 Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 Sounds like his SM may need to visit the other troop and see why it's so wonderful! Link to post Share on other sites
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