100thEagleScout

Wasn’t aware there was one, thanks for pointing that out

It’s a real shame, because I know some amazing and I mean truly incredible scouters who should be up there running the organization and instead we have the same people who can hardly use a computer. I hope BSA can bring in younger board members with newer ideas, but that seems pretty far fetched. Any “new ideas” this board comes up with like LGBT+ or female Eagle Scouts is all just a PR show to try to build membership instead backfiring in their faces.

Kind of a shame I like Rex Tillerson but he’s acting like all of the others at the moment. Everything is fine while the walls are crashing down.

Just because it’s an option doesn’t mean all creditors are equal here. A few executives from JPMorgan != 84000 survivor’s voices. That would be a huge miscarriage of justice.

It would also die on appeal if she tried a cram down.

It’s a difficult decision for me because I loved the program, but I believe the program will survive past the organization somehow. So, I’d say I’m in the BSA needs to end camp should a solution not be found. I haven’t liked the BSA’s decisions for a long time now that isn’t just limited to this bankruptcy. BSA tries to use CCP-style tactics of saying without them Scouting cannot survive. That is a LIE, I know a new program can be made and we will continue to encourage the current program until it can be substituted. Sure, there will be no more Eagle Scouts but a new

I’m only saying that’s the reality of the situation. Insurance has plenty of liabilities to cover the cost with a battered and beaten BSA coming out of bankruptcy and barely surviving liquidation. Whether they pay is a different story. If there isn’t a solution soon I can only see this case escalate in tensions. BSA will say “oops we’re out of money”, BSA professionals will be working for no pay, lawyers will still be charging the same outrageous fees they have this entire year, and local councils will be forced into their own Chapter 7 and 11s.

While BSA can’t die on paper, it certainly can become so financially strained that it ceased operations indefinitely and essentially “dies”.

I wouldn’t say he controls them. I think he just has a big persuasion initiative. It’s similar to how the US President on paper doesn’t have a lot of power but his word can make the stock markets move. They don’t always do, but in Kosnoff’s case it’s a symbiotic relationship. Kosnoff takes the heat from Century while being the political figure behind liquidating BSA. Clients call to complain to him about BSA’s so far awful attempts at a sufficient plan of reorganization. Lawyers on the back end file more state court lawsuits as more windows open up.

Still, this is not a good day for BSA. Especially any council with claims from the last 5-10 years. Those councils’ staff are mega screwed if they didn’t follow proper protocol to the letter.

How is it not inevitable? Obviously this would be by region but all of the bigger, wealthier councils also have more liability exposure so every council will be in danger if the cram down happens.

Of course if BSA were to suddenly declare local councils as part of the whole picture then maybe, but judging from the NAM they are denying the inevitable.

The Bankruptcy Code wouldn’t allow for that. That’s because they’re drawing in non-debtors to also settle. The cram down option would have to be the BSA-only toggle.

And two years of operation costs for councils. I think that’s a very generous proposal.

He was actually 16. He was being sexually inappropriate to his peers. Wasn’t an adult. I have reason to believe he was heavily medicated because he was weird.

Really? Mind telling me how that works out when an openly gay counselor preys on scout camp staff members, doesn’t get an immediate suspension, instead multiple “warnings,” then comes back as a CAMPER and sits in the merit badge classes of those whom he abused for an hour each day? Then the BSA phone line goes silent and an outside party needs to tell BSA to kick someone?

I tried getting into BSA’s therapy. No therapist is taking new clients so oh well. I turned instead to pushing those memories behind me. Psychologically I’d say it’s several lifetimes behind me because I binge television shows and read manga to push it out of my memory. It hurts my wallet, but it’s my own way of getting past it.

What’s even worse is when BSA local councils hired/retained paid counselors they knew or should have known were likely to abuse children/their peers. This isn’t just a problem from the 1970s like BSA likes to make us all think. This problem stretches to as recently as 2 years ago right before COVID-19. My council was particularly bad about it and is the reason I’m suing them. Ridiculous that I had to go to my high school teacher at the time to report something I reported to the LC who didn’t take any action whatsoever besides being too late at firing from camp. I think it took another 4-6

I tried posting about some of these happenings on Reddit, but to this day many Scouters don’t want to hear the truth. It’s going to come smack them in the face in just a few short months.

Just joined this forum to say expect a huge wave of local council lawsuits in the upcoming weeks. An internal email came across saying that all councils in New York state are about to get slammed with crippling numbers of litigation in the early summer right before the end of the state's CVA deadline. Basically, if the BSA stays in bankruptcy, NY councils will have huge pressure to give up everything or lose everything to the settlement trust. If the case ends up as a "cram down" these councils will face unprecedented numbers for their size. If these councils did in fact prepare