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  1. Ah, easy to read... easy to understand. Thank you for the clarity! I wonder if AIS folks can fire their attorney and hitch their wagon to another train? I was at a recent community/scouting event and one of the CORs brought a package they had received from National. The COR took it as a notice they are being "left out on the fray". The LCSE pretty much avoided answering any questions and side-stepped the conversation. Within our council... COs are dropping units at a very fast pace. If national doesn't do something to shore up the damage... I don't think there will be anyone lef
  2. So Ken Rothweiller sent out a message last week urging surviors to vote yes...(video here).... but the TCC just recently sent out a vido (here) stating that the Rothweiller video was simply a scare tactic that included misinfornation. Any thoughts or opinions?
  3. That's why I said "scouting"... and I agree with the latter part WRT BSA.
  4. IMHO, Scouting shouldn't be thought of as a business... and therein lies the problem. I'm going to rephrase a section of a book I am writing and make it more apropos to this topic... but it hits on a much bigger issue. This particular section was illustrating a point about why we are caught in this perpetual funk of "unhappiness". I wanted to share this because it helps set a better playing field for everyone to start questioning everything. For me, I'd like to know why the Forbes 100 CEOs would be a better pick than... let's say a successful small business owner in middle America tha
  5. I got my wife involved and WB trained, so yes. But... I volunteer my time with two other non-profits as well. To me, it's about serving youth and helping the rising generation in this country eventually become the controlling generation. Sort of ... "if not me, then who?". It certainly made me rethink about my continuance in BSA, because you're right... no volunteer should have to take out an umbrella insurance policy to serve in the community. But, if you look around... it seems like everyone has a lawyer on retainer in the off chance they are offended or simply just don't like another p
  6. I've been in five councils over 35 years, associated with a dozen or so others, and this was status quo. In our current LC, we are told the 30% is to pay for the use of the BSA logo and to cover standard "OH / G&A costs". Sounds like you have been in three great councils, unfortunately... I have never heard of a council not charging a fee for fundraising. Maybe I keep finding the councils with bad SE's? In fact, when I was told, as a district commissioner, to shut down one cub scout pack's drink fundraiser because they wouldn't pay the 30% fee, I told the SE to push it over to his le
  7. Therein lies my frustration... the ever ambiguous "Program". LCs/LDs tell donors and parents, during their "Investment in Character Campaigns" (ICC) or other Friends of Scouting fundraisers, that the money goes to pay for “the program”. When talking to BSA professionals, they always use ambiguous terms like "program" or "youth activities" so they can illustrate something grand they are delivering to youth. The last time I checked my personal and unit bank accounts... Scouts and Scouter pay for everything they do. They pay for national membership fees, event fees, training fees, camping fees, a
  8. That is my general fear... and why I called it, "salting the earth".
  9. Understandably... it was/is a difficult job. But, with the level of visceral anger from scouters and the general public... one could agree to a modest "white collar salary" with the agreement of an exit bonus after completing the task. That may have improved public opinion. I think we needed someone that understood the full spectrum of scouting... from the den meeting to the board meeting. I've met some pretty astute SE's that we're also Eagle Scouts and had the business acumen to man the helm of their LC.
  10. @CynicalScouter I'm really not trying to nitpick here... but, during ILST sessions, I try to help scouts understand the anthropological and internal biochemical aspects of "leadership" because I think it is important for them to know how chemicals produce the emotions that make us do and say things in our own self-interests. This is an excerpt from one of the leadership training guides I wrote for my ASMs: I am bringing this up because Dopamine produces the feeling when you've found something or achieved something. It affects your emotions, movements and your sensations of pleasure and
  11. That was precisely the point I was trying get across the bow.
  12. I took out a hefty, personal umbrella policy when I agreed to take on the role as SM. Why? Because the sad fact is... we live in a litigious society.
  13. I am simply applying discourse analysis. Generally speaking, language is processed through the respective left (logical) and right (emotional) hemispheres of our brains. Psychologically speaking, the left hemispheres of our brains are more verbal, analytical, and orderly with greater propensity towards logic, sequencing, linear thinking, mathematics, facts, and thinking in words. Whereas the right hemispheres of our brains are more visual and intuitive with greater propensity towards imagination, holistic thinking, intuition, arts, rhythm, nonverbal cues, feelings, visualization, and daydreami
  14. Negative, kind sir. You keep peppering your statements with "hyperbole". (e.g., "what, should they work for free?", or "so, should they only make $1?", et cetera). You can't keep mixing sensationalist language into your analytical comments and not have me call it out as moral equivalency.
  15. Holy moral equivalency Batman! 🙃 Did those other organizations amass a fortune by pulling on people's heartstrings by saying, "look how your money is helping these sweet little kids"... while simultaneously covering up the carnage of predators that were preying on those same little kids? And since you keep harping on "should they only make $1" ... fine, I'll take the bait... here is what would get me signing a different tune. If the "current" BSA folks wanted to win me over with their "new and approved sainthood"... I would say the CEO should be compensated at about $350K per year, p
  16. Compadre... I am definitely INVOLVED. At one point I was a SM, district commissioner, and did other council and district stuff. On a given week, I was about 40+ hours for my volunteer time with scouting (and that was just 1 of 3 organizations where I volunteer my time). On campout weekends with my unit... obviously more time (but who can count camping time... I mean... it's camping). During the summer, I would drive 90+ minutes to camp a few times a week to teach adult training. All of this.... while holding a full time job as a corporate executive in my company. The balancing act was crazy
  17. Who benefits from those donations? The LC camps that are in shambles? Scouts that have to pay fees to attend those LC camps? Thrown together LC activities that measure success based on profit, not quality? Sorry, I am a "boots on the ground" kind of person and from what I can see at ground level... someone that donates $100K to a local council does not help my scouts in anyway.
  18. Admittedly, my referenced URL was from 2009. It was more of a snarky comment... hence the " " The current folks may be squeaky clean saints.
  19. I'm not saying BSA is committing fraud... or that accounting firms are pencil whipping the creative numbers they are given. They hid and concealed child abuse to protect their treasure...but they didn't hide and conceal aspects of their accounting methods to protect their treasure? 🤨
  20. @CynicalScouterIt was pointed out to me in a PM why I should stop hurling judiciously acerbic darts at Tim K. I concede and I'll zip my lips when it comes to him.
  21. No, I am not "hating for the sake of hating". But I have seen budget after budget, year after year, that tucks things into "the program" so the professionals can cobble together pretty flyers for deep-pocketed donors. What program is that exactly? Run down camps in a lot of councils? Thrown together activities that focus more on profit than quality? The numbers you're propounding are only as good as the people reporting them. And the last time I checked... the people who are reporting them spent a century covering up child abuse so as not to scare away members or deep-pocketed donors. You ca
  22. When I have scouts whose families can't affords shoes, let alone "the program", and those of us that have the means spend tens of thousands of dollars from our own pockets to make "the program work" at the unit level... sorry compadre... I am not going to engage in a semantical debate over how hundreds of thousands of dollars "for entertainment and other funds" isn't technically a person's salary. A scout is thrifty.... and using kids to sling popcorn in the streets so you can have an "entertainment fund" is just as bad.
  23. Seems like there is plenty of money being made in the not-for-profit world.
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