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  1. I've been looking at old copies of Scouting & Boy's Life and I see they used to do "get out the vote" campaigns in October of election years.  Looks like they went away after the 60s.

     

    Seems like a good project, especially teaching that they aren't campaigning for any particular candidate, only encouraging adult Americans to exercise this important right rather than flaming each other on Facebook.

     

    Is anyone aware of Scouts doing these anymore?  

  2. I just started attending RTs a few months ago, and I am fortunate that our district puts together a pretty good program, lots of hands-on stuff and planning tools in the breakouts.  

     

    I spent plenty of time volunteering for the VFW in the past, so I get meeting dynamics.  Two observations:  

     

    1.  People who don't see the value of, or are personally uncomfortable with a live in-person meeting need to get over themselves.  Google and online forums are nice (hat tip to Scouter.com :)), but you gotta be around live Scouters to experience that world and not think in a vacuum.

     

    2.  Meeting leaders, please watch the clock!  If it's scheduled from 7 to 8:30,  stick to it!  Start on time, cut off the windbags so you can keep moving, shorten news & information as needed, and don't waste people's time!!  I think that's one of the biggest turnoffs for volunteers.  You gotta pencil in time for schmoozing (or networking for the more serious-minded) as mentioned above.

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  3. You guys weren't kidding about this show!  My boy and I have watched a few more episodes (yes, my nearly six year old will sit still through a black and white 50s western; it pays not to have cable & video games at the house :) ).  Lots of fist fights, broken legs, rattlesnakes, bear attacks, you name it.  No place for sissies at the Broken Wheel Ranch!

     

    The best one so far is the Junior Rodeo.  Those boys and girls in the stock rodeo footage they used were getting SQUASHED by  horses and steers and getting right back up.  Take that Millennial Mom!

  4. Pack trainer is a great idea!  But, as my wife has found, why is it so difficult to get cub scout leaders even basically trained?  I have the same problem as Pack Trainer.  Everybody's busy (no kidding).  Asked nicely, got lots of promises, links provided with clear instructions, follow ups, finally figured out it just isn't a priority for them & left them alone.    

     

    But a pack trainer, getting the word out, organizing the pack leaders to attend together, putting together a car pool, would be a lot of help. Agreed.  Keep spreading the Good News of Scouter Training!  :) 

     

    I kind of got off the subject.  Maybe pack trainer isn't for everyone.  The idea is, a non parent volunteer helping in any role is a big plus, and those that have done it for 5 years should know the program in be in the best position to be the most helpful.   I've thought about this too.  I think it's important if you find such a person to give them assurances (and stick to them) they won't be pressured into taking on more, which is a justified fear a lot of volunteers in any organization have.  Committee leaders fear a vacuum that will create more work for them, and fall short of some standard the district, council or national has set for the Pack that has little or nothing to do with the boys.  I can see that I'm being groomed for Committee chair, but they'll have to understand that if I step up, I will only Do My Best, which might not be good enough for us to get a pretty plaque or patch, but I'll make darn sure the boys have a good program!

  5. Our school has a spring open house/program coming up in a couple of weeks.  We will be doing minnow races and have a Pinewood Derby demonstration.  Cubs and leaders will be in uniform.  We also help clean up at other events throughout the year, gives us good visibility as well as a good reputation with the school (they aren't our CO).

  6. This came up last night at Roundtable.  Council reps were there for a Fireside Chat which quickly broke down into "you guys need to do something to allow girls into the Scouts," followed by "you guys need to get something like the Rovers Scouts Canada has."  There may have been more but I was hiding under my seat at that point.

     

    One rep asked for a show of hands (with everyone's eyes closed) who wanted co-ed and said the results were about the same as he sees at other meetings: about 2/3s in favor of co-ed.   Another rep explained the complexities mentioned earlier in the thread: COs not wanting to mix genders, liability, etc.

     

    I guess if someone really feels strongly about it, (which I personally don't; my interest and ability is strictly Pack level at this point), they should write up a solid proposal and lobby the BSA.  

  7. It's been a learning experience tracking training on it for our Pack leaders as well as doing my own training.  It ate a lot of my homework when I did the Committee member training.

     

    I use a lot of online resources at work and I'm pretty good with them, but it took a long time to get the hang of myscouting, then figure out the multiple offshoots of that. 

     

    You definitely need a good computer otherwise the site crashes easily.  When trying to use my Chromebook at home vs. my modern work computer I see a big difference.  Anyone accessing it from an old machine must get really frustrated.

     

    I think the part of the problem is it's too complicated for whatever platform they are working off of and an upgrade would probably be expensive.

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    • Recruiting - does your unit recruit for Lions in the fall only?  If not, how do you do spring recruiting for Lions when the kids are pre-kindergarten and possibly not in the schools that feed the Packs yet?  We were recruited in the fall at school open house.  No pre-K recruiting.  Anyone would be welcome throughout the year.
    • I've heard that the Lion Den should start with an experienced Scouter as the Den Leader.  Is that how your unit does it? Yes.  If so, at what point do they hand the den over to one of the parents, Middle of the year, or as they become a Tiger den?  He started asking if anyone would like to lead a meeting  a few months in.  3 of us have done it so far.  The same DL has stayed with the Den.
    • How often are den meetings?  Are they always held on the same day/time?  What day/time are the den meetings?  I've heard concerns about meeting schedules and bed times for the younger kids, when are your Pack meetings and has this been an issue? We meet 2 Tuesdays a month from 7 PM to 8 PM.  Also one Pack meeting a month, sometimes that finishes closer to 8:30.  No one has complained about the times.
    • Do the adventures include outings and field trips?  If so, do you have them during your normally scheduled meeting times, or are they in addition to the normal den meetings? We had a museum visit planned but it fell through.   The Den attended the other Pack events: fire station visit, outside adventures, etc...
    • You mention that the Lions do everything the Pack does, do the families regularly attend all Pack meetings?  Yes. I've heard some suggestions that Lions only attend key Pack events (Blue and Gold, Pinewood Derby, etc.).  Our boys did that, too.  They had fun & behaved pretty well.  I think the Den meetings are important to build group cohesiveness among the boys.
    • I've heard that some Cub Scouting activities aren't available to Lions (such as Cub Scout resident camp in the summer before they start Kindergarten), correct, no overnights. does your Council or District have any events geared specifically to the Lions? No.
    • There is a lot of talk about retention and burn-out... any idea how many kids who start as Lions stay in Cub Scouting through Webelos, and or beyond into Boy Scouting? We'll see, but I'm sure this group will move up to Tigers intact.  None of us have been pressured enough to burnout.  I think the Pack leadership recognizes easing these parents in.
    • I'm also curious about parent involvement.  With two years (Lion and Tiger) of parents attending meetings with their boys, does that result in higher parent involvement at the Wolf-Bear-Webelos levels? Good question, I hope so!  I plan to stick around, got a baby at home who will be starting Kindergarten about the time my oldest can crossover to Boy Scouts.
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    The only other thing I would point out is there are no set achievements or electives.  No badges, belt loops, beads or doodles.  Just the adventure theme.

  9. Here's my take of the Lion program so far.  We have 5 boys, and every boy has a parent with them.  Our Den Leader does a great job.  A few of us have run meetings as well.  It's a good group of parents, everybody helps out a bit.  There is a book with an adventure trail and the meetings are based around a theme, done in an hour.  We don't follow a real fixed script.  Just simple, fun play.  The Lions do everything the rest of the Pack does except overnight camping and the boys seem to behave well enough and have a good time.  They have CS uniforms but no neckerchief and will get the Lion badge as a temporary patch this spring.  Not sure what else I can add...any questions I can answer?   :)

  10. Hi, my name is Rod and I am a Pack Trainer, set to be Tiger Den Leader starting this summer/fall.  Fairly new to scouting; a couple of years as a Cub Scout in the late 70s until our rural den folded and Mother made me join 4-H instead  :o .  She felt showing dairy cattle was a much more worthwhile pursuit; I disagreed, she won.  I've been watching the thread on the new Lion program with some interest.  We are in the Northern Star Council & my son joined one of the "experimental" Lion dens last fall.  If I have some time this evening I'll post a few observations in that thread.  Cheers.

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