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This person is what is called a "Troll" or "Troller"

To Staff Members :

This person is what is calle

ARRRRRGGGHHH !!!!!

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When this crazy thing cuts off every po

As Thumper said, it depends on how involved you want to be. Then, on what the Pack needs to be done.

New Essentials and Committee Member specific are good trainings to take. If you are interested in helping your Pack get out camping then BALOO would be a great training to take. Keep an eye out at your council for information on their Pow Wow or University of Scouting or whatever they call it by you. This is a day long training where you sign up for various different courses. Pick the ones that interest you. You and your CM hubby can sign up for different classes and then compare notes at the end! It's usually LOTS of FUN!!

PS - That database thing. My hubby (Asst CM & Popcorn Kernal) is rather computer illiterate. He tries hard, but whenever he insists he wants to do it himself the kids roll their eyes, stand there, hopping from foot to foot, just itching to jump in and do it so it gets done before we all die of old age! LOL! Without the databases I have put together, mailing, popcorn, etc, he would be up a creek with a stone tablet! So don't downplay your work on databases. It's great!!

BTW - WELCOME!

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Actually, that is just what should concern the Unit Commissioner. He is there to help solve

"This should not be the concern of the DE or unit commissioner."

Actually, th

"This should not be the concern of the DE or unit commissioner."

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Maybe easier, but not nearly as much fun!!!

It's when you find yourself saving toilet paper rolls, sorting dryer lint and scrounging broken candles that you know you have arrived as a Scouter ! LOL!

You might want to try dryer lint instead of sawdust. Also, old, broken up candles can be used instead of purchasing paraffin.

Paper egg cartons (not foam) make great firestarters, but remember to be careful and use a double boiler when melting the wax!

I agree that the G2SS and Youth Protection both state that alcohol has no place in the Scouting program. However, nowhere does it say that the Council Scout Executive should be informed immediately (or at all) when scouts do not live up to the rules of behaviour.

Youth Protection on-line training states:

"Physical violence, hazing, bullying, theft, verbal insults, and drugs and alcohol have no place in the Scouting program and may result in the revocation of a Scout membership in the unit."

"UNITS SHOULD CONSULT WITH THE PARENTS OF MEMBERS WHO FAIL TO MEET BEHAVIOR STANDARDS."

And under Unit Responsibilties it states:

"Adult leaders of Scouting units are responsible for monitoring the behavior of youth members and interceding when necessary."

"PARENTS OF YOUTH MEMBERS WHO MISBEHAVE SHOULD BE INFORMED AND ASKED FOR ASSISTANCE IN DEALING WITH IT."

"The unit committee should review repetitive or serious incidents or misbehavior IN CONSULTATION WITH THE PARENTS OF THE CHILD to determine a course of corrective action including possible revocation of the youth's membership in the unit."

"IF PROBLEM BEHAVIOUR PERSISTS, units may revoke a Scout's membership in that unit."

The caps were mine for emphisis.

This clearly says to me that if a boy is caught drinking at a scout function the first thing that is done is to contact his parents. Then the committee and the parents sit down and work something out. If the drinking is an ongoing problem (not a one time thing) then the committee, along with the parents, may decide to revoke a scouts membership in the unit.

Per Youth Protection, the only time the Scout Executive is informed about youth behaviour is:

"The unit should inform the Scout executive about all incidents that result in a physical injury or involve allegations of sexual misconduct by a youth member with another youth member."

Drinking does not fall into that category.

The above is the official BSA policy on alcohol and the way a drinking incident should be handled. However Suz states that they did not know what was going on at the time and the incident happened some time ago. If the boys were not caught in the act at the time of the incident then all you have to go on are hearsay and rumors. There does not appear, from the little we were told, to be any overtones of hazing, injury, or abuse. We don't even know if the boys involved are still in the Scouting program. If Suz is SM or CC I would reccomend talking to the boys involved quietly to see if you can find out what really happened. Then a good thing might be to hold an alcohol awareness unit meeting. Consider getting the brochure "Drugs: A Deadly Game" and going over it with the boys. Remind the boys, and the adults, of the BSA policy on drugs, smoking and alcohol.

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Welcome to the world of adult Scouters Eri !!

My girl is also a brand new Lifetime Member who has earned her GS Gold Award.

Do you meet at the same time, day and place each week? If you are changing meeting times and days all of the time this could get the families confused. Also, you might need to be open to changing your meeting times if the families have already sheduled other activites for the time you have picked for Tigers.

I would give each of your families a call (not an e-mail), starting with the ones who did not show up last time. Tell them they were missed at the last meeting and let them know if there is anything they need to catch up on. Find out why they missed the meeting, remind them of the time, day and place of the next meeting and let them know that they really need to be there.

At your next meeting have Pack and Tiger Den calendars, an address/phone/e-mail listing of all of the Tigers, and a meeting sign-up sheet. Give the info out to all of your families and sign them each up to run a months worth of Den meetings. Remember that Tigers use Shared Leadership! If a month is to much in one chunk then do it by the week, but sign them all up.

Impress on the families that Cub Scouts in general, and most especially Tiger Cub Scouts, is a family activity. In order to get the most out of the Scouting experience they have to "Do Their Best" to attend every Den and Pack meeting. Then take everyone outside, or somewhere you have lots of room, and play some fun games. Make sure everyone plays the games, even the adults. Make the meetings fun and the boys will drag their Partners there every week!!

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Games

various derbies

Pack meetings

outdoor opportunities

Committee duties

Blue & Gold

area resources

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Wow - Homework in a Tiger Den! Don't push the little guys to hard to fast. They have 4.5 years to earn beltloops and do service projects!

Make sure all 8 families get a cha

Wow - Homework in a Tiger Den! Don't push the little guys to hard to fast. They have 4.5 years to earn beltloops and do service projects!

Make sure all 8 families get a ch

"An addendum then is this: what about "ADD" cases and other such anomalies? We had one boy who was incorrigable, except sometimes when his meds were working to calm the little livewire down. It was hard on everyone because if we held him to a regular standard, he would not have lasted a month in the troop. I do believe they asked him to leave after a year of disrespect and general insanity on outings and troop and patrol meetings."

There is no need to "hold ADD kids to a different, more lenient standard". What you do have to remember is that ADHD/ADD is a disability, it is not simply bad behavior. It is also not something that they can easily control on their own.

Parents should be upfront about their child's disablity when he enters a Unit, especially if he has behaviour issues. The leaders and the parents should sit down and discuss ways to help the scout get the most out of Scouting. That includes the Unit's responses to behaviour, possible medication changes to enable the Scout to have better control later in the day, and ways the Unit can make adjustments or accommodations to help the Scout.

Refusing to read a book or learn about your Scouts is unproductive. If you know why a behaviour occurs it is much easier to deal with that behaviour. Many councils have advisory committees for youth with disabilities and special needs. Check with your council to see if they have resources for you.

Just a reminder - All on-line youth protection should be accessed thru your own council website. There is area specific information relating to the state/local laws about reporting abuse.

Cajuncody's link is for a California council. Blackie6 is in New Jersey, possibly part of Patriot's Path Council. Here is the on-line training from PPC:

http://www.scouting.org/pubs/ypt/ypt.jsp

Here is their home page - They have a nice site!

http://ppbsa.org/

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On the Cub Scout Application it states that "If the parent is not serving as the adult partner, the parental signature on the application indicates approval of the adult partner, and a separate adult application is required."

It also says that "If the adult partner is not the parent living at the same address complete and attach an adult application."

These seem to be the only two reasons to complete a separate adult application other than to volunteer to be leader.

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I'll try that again!

Yes 2Cub, anyone registering as a Leader fills out the adult leader app and must include their SS #.

Tiger Partners, however, do not have to fill out the leader application or submit their SS #.

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Yes 2Cub, anyone registering as a Leader fills out the adult leader app and must include their SS #.

Tiger Partners, however

For Tiger Partner we only have them fill out the adult info on the boy application. For SS #'s, both boy and partner, if they question it we tell them it is optional.

When they get to Wolf, and agree to be a Leader, we have the adult fill out the adult leader application at that time. We require their SS # on the leader app. The adults know that it is required for a background check by our council and none have complained yet.

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Has the troubled Pack tried to hold a sign-up night at it's church? Does the church have a school it is associated with? Are both churches the same religion? If not, the troubled Pack should try to contact boys of the same religious affiliation as their church.

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Tigers, although a real den with a Tiger Den Leader, are run using "Shared Leadership". The Tiger Teams (boy + partner) take turns running mee

"For example, at Day Camp boys earn Fishing, Archery and BB Gun Shooting belt loops. Would you also give those segments??"

We would give out a segment for participating in Day Camp, but not for the individual belt loops.