scouter-mom

Eighteen years of age: old enough to commit to the service of our country, old enough to die in service of our country.

Double drat.

I did not see any signs of this virus yesterday, but it is definately back today.

Help!

Terry, Many thanks!!! S-M

Drat! The mal-function (virus??) is back again. Help.

A Pack I know of has done the following. They would have a non-BSA adult evening. This would happen usually in September. They would meet at someone's home, barbeque, have the option of adult beverages, and play card games or board games (Queen of Hearts, Pictionary, etc). There was no or little mention of scouting. It was a method of getting to know one another in a pleasant social gathering. Later on in the year, when folks were contacted to assist or help with a project, they were not strangers to each other. Contact and communication went more smoothly. Also, there had been the opportunity to possibly discover strengths and/or over-views of each other (single parent/ has a 15 seat van, etc).

This didn't solve all their volunteer problems. But, they said that it did make it easier to recruit "new" help.

In regards to being registered in more than one unit: there is the option of dual registration (happens for a number of reasons). It is my understanding that one is limited to the number of units (2?). In the council that I serve many youth are dual registered in units. Some are registered in a Troop and Crew, in 2 Troops, or in 2 Crews. (This does not "bump-up" membership numbers, they are still just counted as one member.)

From my own first hand experience, this would totally depend on the individual COR (for that specific ward and church).

My sons and I are not LDS members, but were registered and participated with an LDS troop (and team and Crew) for years. That same troop still has many non-LDS members.This particular ward did not register every young male member of their ward. At rechartering they would drop those who did not participate, LDS member or not.

I have close LDS friends in our council who chose to not join their ward's BSA units, and joined a local non-LDS-chartered Troop. In their case, their ward's scouting units were mostly "paper only" and they chose another unit for that reaon. (Sometimes trying to redirect or rebuild from within is not a reasonable choice).

Within both the council and district that I serve, the LDS units vary just as much as all the other various chartered units.

another place to get the information would be at U.S. Scouting. usscouts.org/aboutbsa/bsa-mappp.html

I love google.

Gp to: www.lastfrontiercouncil.org/bsa-councils.htm

they have posted a list with all the councils and their numbers.

Your unit charter has your council number on it, so should your membership card, I believe.

Does this help?

I asked my DE this afternoon about B.R.'s query, hosting/running the district (council also??) PWD and also running a concession whereby the Pack might raise funds for their pack. In our district there would not be a conflict.

I imagine that each council views this differently.

For instance, we have a troop organizing our District Camporee. The same unit is running a food concession and will be retaining any profit from the concession. The Camporee budget does not include the food concession. (BTW, this troop did the same thing last year.) There is no conflict between troop, district, and council over this, our Council has not objected or voiced any demands for concession "profits".

I agree with Scoutnut and Lisabob. Sounds like your pack will have to drop the concession. Bummer.

ok, I have a confession. I do secretly long for a simple teardrop. But, it's not a pop up.

When I came on (twice) yesterday and then again this morning, I did not encounter any pop ups.

What Oak Tree said.

In the District that I serve, our DE will print out a scout net report for any youth (or adult). The youth may ask, or an adult may ask. The scout net report has the advancements and trainings that the council has recorded.

Go to page two of this topic or page one, there is a link in there. If I didn't need to look it up, I would repost it here. Hope to see you there It took me a long time to jump through the hoops with my slow dial up, but it worked eventually.

The parent of the eagle candidate can be listed as his religious reference. This was pointed out at the BS Advancement Course at PTC that I attended this past summer. Hope that this helps.

ditto

(thought it was my server also.)

Your wife and family, her doctors,and medical staff are in our prayers.

Additional information: I also used to think that MBC had to have YPT training. But, that is not correct. Yes, they need to be registered (and therefore a background check could be run). The buddy system should be used by the Scout which protects him. The Scout either brings a parent along or another Scout to the meeting(s) with the MBC.

I know that when our District was making every MBC take YPT we lost some MBC. Some MBC are not regular, active members of the scouting program. They sign on (and register) as a MBC to be of help, but taking YPT means that they have to invest more time, and many of them were getting frustrated and backed out of volunteering their time.

I learned this when I took Boy Scout Advancement training this summer (National level training, at Philmont Training Center).

Hope this helps.

Our Council sends out a weekly e-mail newletter. One can subscribe via our Council Web Site, and one can unsubscribe via a link on the newsletter.

My district does not send out an e-mail newsletter, but another district in our council does. I am on their e-mailing list, and some of the information is helpful.

In each case there is a volunteer who is incredibly internet/computer savvy and puts in an incredible amount of time.

Yes, I think that it is very helpful.

Aquila calva,

I also beleve that it could have happened anywhere. There is always the chance that it could be happening somewhere right now.

Yesterday morning I searched and found the same link you've posted. I read it all the way through. I don't want to read everything on molesters, but I believe that I need to be aware of the facts. I have always believed that most molesters appear as wonderful folks on the surface.

So, I appreciated the "heads up" so to speak from jkhny in this case. I do believe that the Council that supports my District would not "look the other way", but would act correctly and with speed.

I can see where the culture and over-all attitude of many LDS wards and stakes would unintentionally enable such a molester. I do not believe that all LDS COR would do so, though. (I serve in an LDS chartered unit, we are not members of their church though.) Sadly, there are sick and dangerous individuals that manage to hide behind or within various religious organizations.

I can do without all the ranting, venting, and out and out anger (in the postings).

Once again, I appreciate the opportunity to learn more about how something so wrong and destructive could happen and continue in our organization (or any youth organization).

Thank you, OGE, for keeping this thread open.

Ok Vickie, I'll bite. What is FWIW?

And for the moderators: Thank you very much for all that you do!

SaintCad:

Check out your council website, and check out surrounding council websites. You might want to check out their calenders and their individual districts. Also, call your council office. Through your council training chair or your district training chair you might get a one on one training session. Post message me and I will try to get more specific information to you,

You are right, getting the training ahead of time is best. Eamonn is right, the volunteers who conduct the training have lives too, and they are usually busy with summer activities for their families.

Hope this helps.

OGE,

Wow.

Awesome!

Thanks for sharing.

I can tell you how our Council is handling it. MBC is a position "42".

If a MBC does not fill out our council/district yearly application that designates their council and/or district position, then they are dropped from the MBC list (and district charter??). To re-enroll (be registered as a MBC), they have to fill out both the BSA adult registration application and our council form. MBC are not charged a registration fee. Our council form is not a BSA national generated form.

A few years ago we used to carry a YPT card and the districts and council had a list of the YPT card carriers and an assigned number. None of that exists anymore, although it appears that the district will collect a copy of the YPT on line completion page and does forward that to council.

I only mention the YPT as that used to be( and still is,in reality, but not in an "on hands way") a big part of renewing our MBC. How are other Councils handling all this?