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Craig (The7Hiker) is someone who will make you a "custom" patch. He can make it green numbers on a tan background, with a tan veteran bar across the top, or if you want, he can make you one in a silly shape, or with extra words on it. There are lots of examples of this on his web site. It's not necessary to go with an unofficial or incorrect patch, made by an outside vendor, in order to get a one-piece unit number patch. You can just order "the real thing" - a one piece unit number with veteran bar included - from BSA. It's cheap and easy - you go by your local Scout Shop and fill out an

The link given by UCEagle72 is where I heard about the closure of the BSA Speakers Bank program. But there's more to the story! As of two weeks ago, the announcement at that web page said "all good things must come to an end, and on December 31st, the Speakers Bank program will be discontinued, and the Speakers Bank Award, patch, and knot may no longer be earned." As a registered Speakers Bank speaker, I was stunned to see they had shut down the program without notifying the existing members. I let my local scout executive know, since he is in charge of the Speakers Bank within our c

The Pack Trainer Award (and associated knot) is still available, but based on an announcement last fall on the BSA's web site, it will be going away soon. The article says that BSA is consolidating (not eliminating) several cub scouter awards. Pack Trainers will still be able to earn an award, but they will earn the Scouter Training Award, with a cub scouting device on it, rather than a separate Pack Trainer Award and knot. http://www.cpds.org/Docs/Cub_Scout_Adult_Leader_Awards_to_be_Consolidated.pdf The original article appeared on the BSA web site in the "Training Times" news

The Pack Trainer Award (and associated knot) is still available, but based on this article on the national scouting web site, it will be going away soon. The article says that BSA is consolidating (not eliminating) several cub scouter awards. Pack Trainers will still be able to earn an award, but they will earn the Scouter Training Award, with a cub scouting device on it, rather than a separate Pack Trainer Award and knot. http://www.cpds.org/Docs/Cub_Scout_Adult_Leader_Awards_to_be_Consolidated.pdf The original article appeared on the BSA web site in the "Training Times" newslett

On 6/7/2009, LindaBob wrote: > When our veteran unit number changed to 60 this year, I wanted to > order a patch with all the numbers plus our hometown on it, as I had > seen a different unit [wearing]. Then I discovered that BSA discourages > the hometown to be on it, which is why you can't order the hometown on the patch from BSA supply. > The reason given was that certain towns in a given locality might be > thought of as more "elite" than others. B-P wanted uniforming to equalize > all Scouts, regardless of economic class, etc. LindaBob, that

Hi Wilton125, Make your own unit hat? Why not - I see this all the time. Any unit that wants to can develop its own hat. Make a custom neckerchief for your troop? Sounds good to me. But when you start taking the items on the uniform as specified in the insignia guide, and mucking about with them (adding the name of your town, adding a unit nickname, changing the shape of the numerals to the shape of your state, etc.) then you've crossed the line from "unit pride" into "bling." The insignia guide says what can be worn where on the uniform. It says that sleeve gets the co

In searching elsewhere in the scouter.com forums, I found the answer. The BSA supply division is happy to make a one-piece unit number with veteran bar included. They are easy to order and inexpensive. You either go to your local Scout Shop, and fill out an order form, or you call 1-800-323-0732 Ext. 488. In either case, you ask for "2-digit unit number with Veteran bar, item no. 10412." They are $3.49 each, with a minimum of 12. (That's the item number and cost for a two digit pack number, in red, with a veteran unit bar. Three digit numbers or green-and-tan ones are probably

Sure, you can order a "custom unit number" in a silly shape, or with extra words on it - but why not just order "the real thing"? That is, a one piece unit number with veteran bar included. It's cheap and easy. You either go to your local Scout Shop, and fill out an order form, or you call 1-800-323-0732 Ext. 488. In either case, you ask for "2-digit unit number with Veteran bar, item no. 10412." They are $3.49 each, with a minimum of 12. (That's the item number and cost for a two digit pack number, in red, with a veteran unit bar. Three digit numbers or green-and-tan ones are prob

At our council office there is a "national scout shop." Their solution to the confusion was to post the following guidance next to the bins that contain the unit numerals and trained strips. Boy Scouts and Boy Scouters: GREEN shoulder loops, TAN numerals, TAN trained strip Everyone else: RED numerals and RED "trained" strip They didn't mention what you're supposed to be wearing if you're a boy scout or scouter who is still wearing red loops on his uniform shirt. I would guess that Boy Scouts and Boy Scouters who wear red shoulder loops would stick with the red numerals and trained

I searched at www.scoutstuff.org for item D10412 and could not find it. Do they still offer it? Or is it now only available from a third party vendor?

Thanks emb021 and NeilLup. I was hoping to get just such an answer. Would be even nicer to see it in writing but two experienced WBers who agree on it is good enough for me.

Wait, let me get this straight - someone made (or makes?) an unlicensed reproduction of an official BSA uniform item (beads) and is giving them out - to people who did not take the course? Perhaps I misunderstood, but it sounded from the OP like the reproduction "gold beads" were given to a ''relative'' of someone who took Wood Badge. That would be a violation of the BSA's rules on uniform items, which can be found here: http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Media/InsigniaGuide/02.aspx (scroll down to "Protection and Use of Badges and Insignia" where it says "All badges and in

The BSA Insignia Guide ( http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Media/InsigniaGuide.aspx ) clearly explains 2 beads for wood badge recognition, 3 beads for course staff, and 4 beads for course director. What the Insignia Guide does NOT explain is whether the person who wears 3 or 4 beads can continue to wear their "extra" (third and fourth) beads after the conclusion of the course that they are leading. I recall reading years ago, somewhere official, that the "extra" beads were to be worn ONLY while the person was actively serving on course staff; but I can't find any reference now tha