RichardB

 Am unable to provide a citation where something is that does not exist is located.   Good idea reference is here:  

http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/HealthandSafety/GSS.aspx

In situations not specifically covered in this guide, activity planners should evaluate the risk or potential risk of harm, and respond with action plans based on common sense, community standards, the Boy Scout motto, and safety policies and practices commonly prescribed for the activity by experienced providers and practitioners.

http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/HealthandSafety/ahmr.aspx is the one source of truth for all things medical record.    

"they" haven't had a D for quite some time, at least two full camp cycles:)      

There are risk advisories for each high adventure base, along with a template for a council to use should they want to develop their own.   

http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/HealthandSafety/GSS/gss02.aspx#i is the most current version of the GTSS.  Not sure how you got to the link above, but will terminate with extreme prejudice the offending webpage and a couple of others that seem to have survived.    

Thanks, Richard

PS:  Eagle94-1A good question to ask your council camping folks is where is the list.   As to the Tour and Activity Plan, there is no approval beyond the unit certification.  Incorrect assumptions on your part since circa 2011.  

If you were looking at the handbook and associated leaders guides (which again, I'm assuming you would be using to run the program), along with the Guide to Safe Scouting (April '15 update) you would have seen the change.    At the end of the day, the program changed, the materials reflect that.    There are still age / program limits on the aquatics program for Cubs.    

Also, might mention that your fall campout scenario raises several flags or maybe additional points of inquiry that would have lead you to the program materials cited in the blog and my first response.  

Following the cub program, you would have completed a tour and activity plan as part of your planning (if it included aquatics) - it would have referred you to Safety Afloat, Safe Swim Defense, and the Guide to Scouting, BALOO, CPR and reminded you of the program training needs.    I'd also wonder was this a council approved location for your Pack Overnighter - your BALOO trained person(s) would be the ones who could have helped with this.    

So, at the end of the day, you asked some questions, you got answers.   Just like here.   If you do take your den or pack to aquatics activities please follow the program materials, have a plan and qualified supervision so the boys have a great time.    

Not really "new" at all, its been out over a year - year and a half, one of those tucked away gems.   Didn't really think it needed any formal fanfare since it was coordinated with updates to the specific program information which can be found in the Cub program handbooks and leaders guide.  If you are following the Cub program it would have been seamless as Safety Afloat was updated and coordinated so youth can complete the adventures at a pack or den level.   Running the program as designed is all the article is re-enforcing that and the points of Safety Afloat and Safe Swim Defense are key to a great youth experience.   

Training validation is currently in myscouting.org. You can search by member ID or your username.    It is working as designed to the best of my knowledge.  Your Key Three can actually update training credits now so maybe that is the source of "updates to the app" confusion.   

As others have pointed out (try what Zaphod says) training (which is where you would take YPT or print your certificate / pocket card) has moved to my.scouting.org.   

Enjoy.  

Not sure that I understand the concept of this being an app.  

To your completion cards - If you look under your completions tab, each one will pull up with a little printer icon.   In chrome and with adobe reader DC, the print icon pulls up the pocket card and certificate as a one page pdf in DC.  You may then print, save, etc.  Your set up may require different ways to pull up the download.  

I've got one: Energy drinks!

 

 

http://www.scouting.org/filestore/HealthSafety/pdf/Energy_Drinks_Statement.pdf- It's on Scouting Safely, feel free to take the time reviewing other stuff found there:   http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/HealthandSafety.aspx  

Why must you read something into the post.  As far back as 1993 youth and adults were breaking their neck because they used a product not intended for their use.    

Flash forward to a game someone made up and labels as kickball.   Same risk, exposure is there.  Probably more so today than in 1993 due to increase in obese kids and adults.    

Richard

BTW - that's not kickball.   This is kickball:   https://www.kickball.com/files/KICKBALL_OFFICIAL_RULES_2012.pdf 

http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/1993/WHAM-O-Backyard-Water-Slides-Are-Dangerous-For-Adults-And-Teenagers/

PROBLEM: The WHAM-O slides are designed for use by children only. Use by adults and teens has the potential to result in neck injury and paralysis. Because of their weight and height, adults and teenagers who dive onto the water slide may hit and abruptly stop in such a way that could cause permanent spinal cord injury, resulting in quadriplegia or paraplegia. The slider's forward momentum drives the body into the neck and compresses the spinal cord. Kransco reports that seven adults and a 13-year-old teenager suffered neck injuries or paralysis while using WHAM-O slides. 

An observation, racing is not authorized, not highlighted in said quote below.    I'm willing to wager that something in the name of the facility / review of the facilities marketing and brand, and the review at the council levels has something along the lines of racing in it.  K-1 Racing if I'm really good at the when Mom says no we ask Dad on the internet game.....

RichardB

PS:  Beavah, glad to see ya back.   

 

 

9. Motorized go-carts and motorbike activities are unauthorized for Cub Scout and Boy Scout programs. Go-carting conducted at a commercial facility that provides equipment and supervision of cart operation is authorized upon submittal of a completed tour and activity plan. Participating in motorized speed events, including motorcycles, boats, drag racing, demolition derbies, and related events are not authorized activities for any program level.

 

 

Somewhat off topic but maybe you should review the Tools section of the Boy Scout Handbook 2016 version and the Guide to Safe Scouting on the whole knife issue.   

http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/HealthandSafety/GSS/gss08.aspx#f 

Just an FYI - the material is being revised to reflect the updated SPL handbook.  'tis a work in progress to sync up all the materials.    

http://www.scouting.org/Home/HealthandSafety/Alerts/Mosquito-Borne_Illnesses.aspx

Richard

Let me be less subtle:

No balls in Scouting.

What about Chalk Balls?  http://www.scouting.org/Home/OutdoorProgram/ShootingSports.aspx or direct link

http://www.scouting.org/filestore/Outdoor%20Program/pdf/510-317(16)_ChalkBall.pdf 

It would be easier to recruit kids to Scouting if we didn't have to take the squirt guns out of their hands, forbid them from playing bubble ball or measure their water balloons before they throw them. Just sayin'.

A recent Sports & Fitness Industry Association Top Line report indicates the top three things folks who wanted to become active (their term is non-participants) in Ages 6 to 24 are Camping, Swimming, Biking.    Pretty sure if you pick up a handbook for the BSA programs we do those - well.    

Perhaps:  

As one looks at things like orbs

One could ask if we have exhausted all possible programs to known to man and need another?  

Then someone brings forth an idea.  

Perhaps one decides to test said idea out.  

As the test progresses you ask yourself things like is this strategic?   For example if you were in the BSA you might ask something like why is this or should this be scouting? 

If you made it that far one might question the risks for a specific program or activity.   But what would that be:   Rolling down hills, off of mountains, across ponds, or just wearing a portable green house in the heat while bouncing off others.     

Say you found the "program"  one might look at some details.   Would these orbs be a haven for disease transmission, how would you clean them, is little Timmy going to react to PVC, what happens when you roll to far or fast, what if and waxing hypothetical.   One might also look to see what folks like the CPSC have to say, review high profile incidents involving said orbs.    

Then one would ask what is your plan to mitigate or manage those risks.   Is there a solid ROI in this investment of folks time, talent and treasure?  

Then some folks decide its a good idea, but its not a great idea.  

Somewhere, sometime one might make a decision.     

Generally, what follows is questioning of that decision by others.  Perhaps those who question did not have a say in the process, perhaps they may not see a larger playing field, perhaps they have a dog in the hunt already.   

Said questioning will come with demands for data / analysis / rolling heads.   

All the while it might be as simple as we got bigger fish to catch and fry.   Going to let the little ones go, bait the hook for the big fish, and start the grease getting hot.  

But then there will always be a conspiracy.  

Happy Wednesday.  

Please go recruit a youth into Scouting today, 

Richard

Adults restricting the scouts program by their fears is such a pervasive problem that I added a section in my Scoutmaster Specific class syllabus of how to recognize it and prevent it.

 

 

Just a thought - if you are teaching "Your" SM class you are not teaching the program of the BSA, you are teaching "your" program.   

Shouldn't the real question be:   So where is the Knighting Program found in Cub Scout program material that calls for the use of a sword?  Or is it something the OP or some legacy volunteer made up?  To the best of my knowledge nowhere in the program do we use swords.   For Bears and Above we teach safe use of knives.    

Reacting to being told something looked like a bad idea so don't do it does not mean there needs to be a rule to point to does it?  See preface to the GTSS:  http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/HealthandSafety/GSS.aspx 

and I'd also point out the BSA policy on knives in both the Boy Scout Handbook and the GTSS has been changed:   http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/HealthandSafety/GSS/gss08.aspx#f 

A sharp pocketknife with a can opener on it is an invaluable backcountry tool. Keep it clean, sharp, and handy. The BSA believes choosing the right equipment for the job at hand is the best answer to the question of what specific knife should be used. We are aware that many councils or camps may have limits on the type or style of knife that should be used. The BSA neither encourages nor bans fixed-blade knives nor do we set a limit on blade length. Since its inception, Boy Scouting has relied heavily on an outdoor program to achieve its objectives. This program meets more of the purposes of Scouting than any other single feature. We believe we have a duty to instill in our members, youth and adult, the knowledge of how to use, handle, and store legally owned knives with the highest concern for safety and responsibility.

Remember—knives are not allowed on school premises, nor can they be taken aboard commercial aircraft.

So, the OP asks how would the GTSS apply?   One answer would be to read the preface:  http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/HealthandSafety/GSS.aspx.   Specifically what does your common sense say?  In addition, if your common sense is different then I'd point you at the Activity Planning and Risk Assessment piece found here:     http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/HealthandSafety/GSS/gss08.aspx.  Finally, if you still think this might be a good idea you may wish to consult the age appropriate guidelines.   Many folks on this discussion have suggested that just saying no is the right answer once you know it is not a part of the Scouting program.    

Another way to look at this would be why would this be scouting?   Not a program of the BSA, no where to be found in the literature.   I'd also suggest that the way the OP hypothetical is set up, its a idea the adults had. Youth Run?    

Please review (Also in the GTSS) the commitment to safety:  http://www.scouting.org/Home/HealthandSafety/SafetyThoughts/1192016.aspx  Commit yourself to creating a safe and healthy environment by:

• Knowing and executing the BSA program as contained in our publications...

Finally, motor vehicle accidents lead the way in claims made and costs.  Just say no.   

If you sign into your my.scouting.org account one of the banners on the right will take you to the sign in for the e-learning center for Cub Scouts and Venturing.    Select the training you want (Various Den Leader or Cubmaster) and it will load it up for you, showing you each course.   They are broken into 4-16 min segments.  Typically 3 courses to get folks started and leading into a successful first meeting...

There are additional courses outside position specific training plans in the catalog.   

Richard

In case you all had not seen this today.  

http://scoutingwire.org/our-lion-pilot-program-aims-to-attract-more-to-scouting-at-a-younger-age/  

So maybe I don't understand your issue.  There are four pins, you order or purchase the ones you earn.  No trim is the individual.   The bronze, silver, gold are done on a unit or organizational level.   

http://www.scouting.org/scoutsource/Media/Publications/EmergencyPreparedness/award.aspx

scroll all the way to the bottom for the SKU's for all 4 pins.