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Personally I have not noticed any personal attacks to Mr and Mrs. R. on this forum. THUTH2, Don't start throwing stones here. Mr R posted asking for input and he got from my fellow forum members. This forum is for opinions on issues, and we have given our opinion. If it not the opinion you had hoped for then sorry, but I call them like I see them (given the information that I was able to find) I am not hiding. Cary P Belleville IL

And yet another post I found... After reading the article and the discussion boards, I have formed the opinion the Rasmussen's are not about the youth, but about how much money they can make off a frivolous lawsuit. I may be wrong but I can smell, and this all smells bad. ------------------------- posted by kingmj50 We were recent members of this Troop and I can say that the Rasmussens do not follow the Scout Oath and Scout Law set by the BSA. They are at best con-artist from New York that Ive ever met, and surround themselves with people that theyve been able to manipula

The Girl Scout units around my parts are great. My daughter is a Junior and her troop does a lot of stuff, have a great program, heck they even went camping this past weekend. As with any organization it is the leaders that make or break the program.

I found this posted on the forum section of the Orlando Sentinal newspaper article...This gives another side to this twisted story. ------------------------- Posted by "I Was There", Titusville Fl. OK folks, I was there. You don't know half this story. The reporter did not do a complete investigation of this issue. Before the Rathmussens came to this organization there were approximately 125 kids in the 700 scouting program. There use to be Tiger cubs, Cub scouts, Webelos, and Boy Scouts. There were 18 active adults participating weekly in the advancement of these kids in scouti

Amen brother and fellow Crew Advisor!!! Cary P Crew 805 Advisor WB C-39-06

The networking and fun I had with old friends and new friends.

p.s. Sorry about the mis spellings...I have been on some pain meds for a bad back that I threw out yesterday. Happy trails Cary

After getting some hate mail and reading other post about our beloved WB program this is what I have come up with. 1. WB is not perfect and it will not please everyone. 2. WB is a leadership training seminar that takes place outdoors. 3. We all need to stop complaining about the course, if we have constructive ideas for it then pass them on to your Counicl WB staff and let them get the info to national. 4. Encouarge those who have not gone to WB to go. 5. We have all gotten something from our WB experience. Accentuate the positives and hide the negatives. 6. We went to or are go

update to my last post: WB should NOT be Boy Scout specific....there are Cub Scouts, Venturing, Varsity Leaders, and District people that attend the course. Mastering camping skills should be done at Scoutmaster Specific training...and I have taught SM Outdoor leader training.

WB is evolving just like other types of training classes, with my research on the old wb to the new, the new appears to be the better. WB was a good experience for me, I had fun, learned some stuff, and made some new friend, but it was not the mountian top experience that several of the WB "mafia" told me it would be. What really needs to change is some folks "attitude" toward the program. It is not a "religion", a fraternity, or click, like some folks make it appear. Some folks take it too serious and feel that some folks like me are out to "tarnish the good name of wb" (that is anothe

The current WB course is good overall. The leadership training should be the main focus. OGE and Glern summed up my feeling to the tee.

This may tick some people off, but hey this is America. This poem sums up my feelings about the secular world trying to take away from the real reason of Christmas . Christmas Poem The month before Christmas When all through our land, Not a Christian was praying Nor taking a stand. Why the PC Police had taken away, The reason for Christmas - no one could say. The children were told by their schools not to sing, About Shepherds and Wise Men and Angels and things. It might hurt people's feelings, the teachers would say Decemb

Bagpipes show up in Steve Earl's Copperhead Road and a few songs by Slade.

Yes they did the Venturers at my course...some of the kids were from my crew There are other parts of Venturing than just the Outdoors part, some crew are into hobbies, sea scouts, etc...would have been better if they would have spent 30 minutes going over the Venturing program. But the "cross-over" of the TGs to Venturing at WB is not how it is done in the real world. Plus the uniform police would have had a field day when they put green tabs on the tan shirt...

My two cents... Add more Venturing information to the program, or at least have a staff member who works with Venturing give the bits about Venturing to the class. I was the only Venturing Adult leader in my class. The first day they one of the staff members giving a briefing on Venturing and were giving bits of wrong information. Of course the big mouth I am, I chimed in and corrected the situation on the spot. Afterwards I was taken to the side and counceled about interupting. Several of the members of my class didn't know about Venturing and I was swamped the first weekend w

Get the unit chartered. Recruit good adult leaders Recruit youth. Have the youth earn their own money. A few car washes/bake sales can get you a few hundred bucks. If need a few bucks, then ask the CO for help. The money in the troop accounts belong to that troop. Cary P Crew 805 Advisor

I'm going to have to side with my fellow forum members. Too vague on the details to make an educated opinion.

just do it Cary P Bobwhite C-39-06

I used to be a Bobwhite, and a Good Old Critter too, But now I've finished BobwhiteING and I don't know what to do. I'm growing old and feeble, and I can Bobwhite no more! So I'm going to work my ticket if I can! Back to Gilwell, Happy Land, I'm going to work my ticket if I can! BOBWHITES ARE IN THE HOUSE!!! Cary P C-39-06

thanks folks! I got beaded this past weekend at our council camporee. 8 from my class has a ceremony. We had about 75 people at the ceremony. I did make it "mandatory" for my Crew to attend . One kid asked why he had to go, and I told him, "Because I did WB for you!" Be both got a laught out it. Lots of fun to meet old friends again. Back at this weekend as I have help run our council's Outdoor Leader Training. Cary P C-39-06 I used to be a bobwhite

IMHO the formal evaluations are a bad idea...these are kids and not employees. The SM Conference would be the way to go for leadership evaluations. Committee should not have anything to do with the program side of the house, that is the SM''s job.

way cool eagle!!! We get beaded the same day!!!!

Take a look at the Outdoors Bronze and Ranger requirements. This might give you a few ideas plus the Venturers might be able to knock out a requirement or two. Cary P Crew 805 Advisor

Get my beads on Saturday with 7 others from my class. Cary P C-39-06 Bobwhites

You will be getting some info soon about what needing to bring along. Things that you will need: 1. Open mind 2. Sense of humor check out woodbadge.org it has some pretty good info. Cary P C-39-06 Bobwhite