Better to spoil the child than bend the rod???
Many times this exuberant boys need the true scouting meme and experience to learn enough to change for what we consider the better.
We can bend them to our will with a tough disciplinary code and if that fails there is always bigger and better prisons.
Many gatherings of youth in scouting is not scouting at all but rather socializing and facilitating socializing or outright charitable works.
The founders of modern scouting , Baden Powell, Seton . Beard et al, were opposed to this type of camping club and preffered the batterings