Marty_Doyle

What does you Pack do, historically? What is the PAck year? Ours follows the school year - September to June. We plan Pack summertime events for June, July and August. A pack picnic in June, after the June Pack Night, which we treat as a graduation. Cubs move up to the next rank at that time. (The Tigers have actually had their own gradustion at a district event in May (a tradition left over from when Tigers were not really part of the Pack)). Most Cub Scouts have earned their rank in the period from B&G (in February) through graduation. Sometimes earlier. Sometimes later. The Pack

Dan - I think it was Col. Potter who used to refer to Frank Burns as a "horse's patoot", referring to the posterior regions. "Patuty", I guess, is an alternate spelling of the dimunutive (similar to Thomas Seaton being an alternate spelling of Ernest Thompson Seton). Laurie's a rock (saxa or hoya?), OGE is a traitor, the entire hierarchy and membership of the Roman Catholic Church (guess Eastern Rites are safe) is "wimpy" and knows nothing of agape, all women are evil, no one on this board is knowledgable or educated, et cetera. Wheeler has the zeal of the true believer. He has th

You know, KS, I was just thinking that those metallic kilt-like things that Hollywood always depicts the Spartans at Thermopylae wearing (probably historically inaccurate) look like they would be of better quality and last longer in the outdoors when compared to the green uniform pants....... oops, I am being flippant and childish.

I think one of the issues is "what makes it a Pack camp out?" Some Cub Scout reality. I am a Cubmaster, have taken all appropriate training, including BALOO and WLOT. If Its Me (the Wolf den leader in my Pack) came to me and asked (it's usually been more like told me) the Wolf den is going camping, what I would do (even though I know Its Me has completed BALOO) is bring in one of the Webelos leaders, who are also BALOO and WLOT trained, and the three of us would go over the planning aspects of the campout. I would then check my calendar and have the Webelos leader check his calendar to

You're evil.

Of course, childishness may not be so bad....didn't somebody link that to entry into heaven (Matt. 18:3)?

OGE - I really want to hear from Outdoor Thinker if you sing as well as you type?

Being able to quote someone else seems to have acquired a new level of importance on the forums , so here is a quote: "Scouting answered a boy's craving for fun and adventure. But it's appeal ran deeper than that, for it also spoke directly to a boy's self-respect. Instead of imposing a lot of rules, Scouting put a boy on his honor and trusted him to do his best. It encouraged him to follow his own special interests and discover his own unique abilities. It asked him to use his skills and knowledge to help others. And it challenged him to take on a man's responsibilities. Scouting took bo

I have always viewed people like trial lawyers and heart surgeons as so self confident about their abilities that they can appear arrogant. It might even be a pre-requisite. And to a certain extent, their personality dictates their choice of employment (or maybe it's vice versa). So, that's where I chalked that part of your post up to. No apology really necessary.

I suspected that you were drafting a thesis on-line in these forums. Do we get to grade the final version? Continuously? Oh, joy. Laurie's a rock, OGE is a traitor, and so much more ...... to look forward to.

I suspected that you were drafting a thesis on-line in these forums. Do we get to grade the final version? Continuously? Oh, joy. Laurie's a rock, OGE is a traitor, and so much more ...... to look forward to.

I was at a University of Scouting this weekend, and it was emphasized in two different classes that National is shortly going to recommend that Cub Scouts get outdoors more often. The assumption is that all dens are meeting weekly (emphasis on assumption), and therefore the third den meeting each month should involve an outdoor event. This recommendation is based upon a perceived retention problem in Cub Scouting, and a series of "exit interviews" where the Cubs who left said it was because they thought they were going camping in Cub Scouts and didn't. These outdoor den events are in add

NJ - I agree with you on what the boys get out of it being driven by age. The Pack has a history of one "big" pack event each year - lock ins at a Museum or Aquarium, or camp ins at a semi-military/historical site. When my son was a Wolf, we camoped out by the submarine display in Groton. It was "cool". When my son was a Bear, we camped in on the Massachusetts. Again, on the surface, it appeared that it was just "cool". But then my son started taking history books out of the library. He asked his aunt, who was going to Hawaii, to bring him back things from Pearl Harbor. He wrote a r

I'm hurt, OGE.

And as for Wheeler's decidely un-Scout-like comment about OGE, I think it is time for an appropriate quote from a friend of BSA: "It is not the critic who counts, nor the man who points out where the strong man stumbled, or where a doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man in the arena whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs, and who comes up short again and again, who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, and spends himself in a worthy cause. The man who at best knows the triumph of high achievement

OGE- Illegitimati non carborundum As if you would.....

BORG. I knew it.

Our Pack has camped over on the Battleship Massachusetts in Battleship Cove, Falls River, Mass. (http://www.battleshipcove.org/) approximately every third year. The Cub Scouts love it - in addition to the Massachusetts, there is a destroyer, submarine, Russian/East German(?) cruise missile ship, PT boats and more. The cost and schedule are about the same as the New Jersy. As NJ pointed out, back and neck pains, plus essentially no sleep all night long are the complaints from Scouters and parents. But the boys love it.

OGE - Don't slander the Jesuits and Christian Brothers. They would ask one to "define your terms" first and come to agreement on what all the terms mean. That has not been done at any time in these threads. And I think wheeler telling us to get back to the thread is somewhat hilarious.

Whatever funds were expended by BSA on this case would have been better spent "making a case" why people should directly donation to BSA rather than through an intermediary, to insure that the full value of one's intended donation makes it to the organization one wants to donate to, as saltheart ponted out. I don't see how BSA lost any first amendment rights - they could still solicit people for donations, just not through the United Way. The answer may just be to build up the internal fundraising arm of the BSA, beyond FOS, to a real "Development" area, and avoid delaing wwith organiz

Whatever funds were expended by BSA on this case would have been better spent "making a case" why people should directly donation to BSA rather than through an intermediary, to insure that the full value of one's intended donation makes it to the organization one wants to donate to, as saltheart ponted out. I don't see how BSA lost any first amendment rights - they could still solicit people for donations, just not through the United Way. The answer may just be to build up the internal fundraising arm of the BSA, beyond FOS, to a real "Development" area, and avoid delaing wwith organiz

Good golly, Terry, I never knew you had so much power! You must be a Red Sox fan too, because I am having problems getting to the Yankees site to try and get tickets for me and my son!

From our fellow Scouters across the pond: Ralph Reader - Mr Gang Show Ralph Reader was born in Crewkerne in Somerset on May 25, 1903. As a young man, he moved to America where he became a leading light on Broadway. It was here that he developed his performing, writing, directing, dancing and other theatrical skills that rightly earned him the title of 'The Kid Dance Director". It was during his time in New York that he worked with the legendary Al Jolson, who had the greatest impact on his life in the theatre. In 1928, he returned to Britain and starred in the musical 'Good News'

Good to see the library's open. The title of the article is "THE CHANGING ROLE OF WOMEN IN CUB SCOUTING". I guess "A Sociological Evolution" could be considered a subtitle. Missing from the above post is the long list of chronological highlights from 1930 to 1984 that make up the bulk of the article. All of this can be found on the Virtual Cub Leader's Handbook site, an excellent source for Cub Scout leaders to draw from. However, it is not an official Boy Scouts of America site. It is a resource put up and maintained by a fellow volunteer. The article cited is also not an offic

I second Fuzzy Bear on the recent slowness of the site. Then again, the "Web site not responding" message usually appears when I try to open threads in the "Issues and Politics" forum, with philosophical subjects, probably including at least one doctortal dissertation length post (with footnotes and citations). Would the length of a post affect the ability to open the thread, since I am able to open threads with more, shorter postings? Thanks Terry.