JimmyD

I would say no for this reason. TH\he AOL is the highest rank you can achieve in cub scouting and the BSA allows you to wear that on your BS uniform. Now in the past before the oval do you think that a kid would wear there webelos diamond badge? The answer is no so thats the way I would take as in no. BSA is stillusing the diamond badge becuase they still show it in the catalog. Thats my reasoning.

Well my dad and myself both agreed a long time ago that he wouldn't sign ranks or merit badges off for me. I really didn't have trobule getting stuff done. I totally avodied those "favoritism" problems.

What KA6BSA said is right. Does this boy Have his merit badge cards or his rank cards? (not the blue ones the other ones) If he doesn't any of those there is no way that eagle appication is going to get through becuase on the applcation they ask for the date of your 1st calss BOR, and life, and the dates on 21 merit badges. He'll have to start everything all over.

If the boy is 16 or 17 years old all you can do is really encourage him. At that age you can't make the decision for him he has to make it. If he's younger talk to the parents and see what you can do.

I agree with Ron. Sounds like a kid in our troop. (No he didn't make it becuase he didn't have the will to finish a couple merit badges up)

Our troop usually goes to a worship service then we all get together for a breakfest somewhere near by. (We don't require the kisd to go to church so we don't offend anybody its voluntarily) We do incourage them to go to the breakfest with their families cuase the troop pays for it.

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They have an FAQ for any of your problems.(This message has been edited by JimmyD)

If you sent a list out with a check list nothing else you can do. My dads gotten to the point where he can't stand the cold either.

BW out of curiosity i was wondering how your thinknig was? (conservative,reactionary,liberal,radical, moderate)

With flyer hand outs i would have the district make a list of what to bring for cold weather camping that might make the troops more prepared.

"How do scouting myths get started?

Do you agree that the methods do not need to be followed?

Do you think some methods should be followed and some should not?"

You seriously need to lossen up. Its a JOKE. It was ment to send a message to people who are only happy when they have something to complain about. I've met plenty of people who like doing that through out my life. I've been an ASM now for like 6 months now. I don't know everything.I didn't even make any comments on the methods nor am i going too because this topic isn't suppose to be about the scouting methods.

So lets all have a nice good laugh nobody made anybody open this topic up on your screen except for yourselves.

You guys take this post really too seriously. I hope you guys don't watch Comedy Central.

This is sad. I don't know about Florida but pennsylvania has fluroscent orange requirments when hunting deer, and when you go out for turkey you hae to wear orange till you ge tsittuated then tkae it off. Just as a reminder for that don't wear colors that are asocated with the animal like black for hogs and red for the beard of a turkey. We always make sure when we go out with the troop on satursdays during a huting season everyone where's orange as a safty precaustion just incase.

What we do is that the Den Leaders will keep a couple of the kids projects (pine wood derby cars). Then display them on the tables. So indirectly the kids are making the decorations.

LOL very funny and true.

I don't know what you are trying to imply but when you only give the award say 5 to people who donate $$ and 1 who is a "volunteer" who works with kids that does sound strange. I'm sure if everyone had the money they would donate to events and other things but they don't. But if these people only donate to the council and thats it and expect a reward well that just isn't right for that award. Isn't there the James West award for stuff like that?

"Yes he is supporting the council.But is he doing this for the council or the unit?"

He is supporting boy scoutting in general just like the people who donate money.

Like i said before for donating $$ there are awards for that but unless these people who have jobs/rich period give up there weeknights and weekends for these kids like the locals do, do they deserve? If these wealthy people then fine thats no problem but if they only sit on a board once a month or whatever and thats it then they don't desrve it. Without the volunteers those guys wouldn't have anything to donate too.

Take it for what its worth.

Basically to summarize

Only $$=No

$$ and time=yes

"Volunteers who think "the Professionals work for us."

Council Executive Boards who let the SE dictate to them"

Read the thread in the council relations forums about my view and what examples i sihgted within my council and you'll know what my opinion is.

Bill when i get out of college and stuff thats how i would like to be...just to be honest with no policits thats a problem with my troop and pack.

Yes.........

"I see that you are young, so I'm going to go fairly easy on you. I wonder with your age and experience exactly how well you know your Scout Executive. Also, what are "Council Members"?

Here is why I gripe. Scout Executives, for the most part, are very knowlegeable and extremely dedicated to the Scouting movement. They have given their lives to this movement, in fact. Often they are faced with difficult decisions or have to defend unpopular decisions made by Boards of Directors. Often they are able to pull from knowledge and experience that a unit level Scouter might not have in order to make a decision.

Ultimately the Scout Executive is there to ensure that and increasing number of boys is recieving a high quality program within the borders of his or her Council. Sometimes that might mean closing a camp, and office or other facility to keep the Council financially solvent. These decisions never come easy. Remember the Scout Executive doesn't WANT to create controversy. They would rather avoid it. So, when they do create it, you can bet it is for a good reason.

Go get to know your Scout Executive. Ask him about his Scouting experience. I bet you will find he is far from arrogant. You will probably find him incredibly knowledgeable about the Scouting program."

Alright our council is a million dollars in debt and they pased a bufget with a 100,000 defict.

2002 our troop sold popcorn but we never recived patches and pins and they took the money out for those. Also this happened with many other troops so in 2003 we deicded we would not sell popcorn and so did plenty of other troops and they lost 17k for not giving us our patches the previous year. (we're still wondering where there at and so are others)

Council went and made all current merit badge counselors fill out a a form stating that they would like to remain councselors for merit badges. Plenty of people sent them in but when the list came out the list was paper thin when this new policy took place previous year there was a huge number. When my father called council office the council employee was very arrogant blamed us for the papers when it was axctually there fault. (yes other troops had the ame issue)

Council supplky store=A distrct supple store=B

In our district we had a scout office. Well due to lack of funds they closed it. It was a proven fact that B served more troops although it was much smaller but it did then troop A did. Also our council president had other ideas and solutions to keep B but the board turned them all down. She uis the only person who was lookiing out for us the volunteers.

Point A is about an hour away while point B was about 20 mins. away. So now there doing "free shipping" onl once a month but the council right next to us is only about 25 mins. away from where we are at so now we will be using the other council's service center.

Before we found out about the million dollar defict the summer camp was going through huge changes (sewer system and new trading posts and other various things) we were all under the assumption that it was being payed for by grants. Apprently it wasn't and a lot of people voiced their opinions about it. Its also been known now that the council exceutive board that makes these changes are near or live by point A and work for a bank. It also seems like all council events now are only at point A anymore also. Also a finacial person (i don't know title exactly) that worked with or for the council was let go. Our troop and others re under the assumption something is going on. We're all mad that they waited to tell us all of this, never did recieve our popcorn patches and pins and the budget they never told us at all and we all assumed eerything was ok. We have ben thinking of writing to national about this but we haven't decide yet. I'd appreacte any advice. I would like to take our whole county and become part of theother council but i doubt if that an happen.

(yes the odler topic I made before was becuase of these stituations.)

"I see that you are young, so I'm going to go fairly easy on you. I wonder with your age and experience exactly how well you know your Scout Executive. Also, what are "Council Members"?

Here is why I gripe. Scout Executives, for the most part, are very knowlegeable and extremely dedicated to the Scouting movement. They have given their lives to this movement, in fact. Often they are faced with difficult decisions or have to defend unpopular decisions made by Boards of Directors. Often they are able to pull from knowledge and experience that a unit level Scouter might not have in order to make a decision.

Ultimately the Scout Executive is there to ensure that and increasing number of boys is recieving a high quality program within the borders of his or her Council. Sometimes that might mean closing a camp, and office or other facility to keep the Council financially solvent. These decisions never come easy. Remember the Scout Executive doesn't WANT to create controversy. They would rather avoid it. So, when they do create it, you can bet it is for a good reason.

Go get to know your Scout Executive. Ask him about his Scouting experience. I bet you will find he is far from arrogant. You will probably find him incredibly knowledgeable about the Scouting program."

Alright our council is a million dollars in debt and they pased a bufget with a 100,000 defict.

2002 our troop sold popcorn but we never recived patches and pins and they took the money out for those. Also this happened with many other troops so in 2003 we deicded we would not sell popcorn and so did plenty of other troops and they lost 17k for not giving us our patches the previous year. (we're still wondering where there at and so are others)

Council went and made all current merit badge counselors fill out a a form stating that they would like to remain councselors for merit badges. Plenty of people sent them in but when the list came out the list was paper thin when this new policy took place previous year there was a huge number. When my father called council office the council employee was very arrogant blamed us for the papers when it was axctually there fault. (yes other troops had the ame issue)

Council supplky store=A distrct supple store=B

In our district we had a scout office. Well due to lack of funds they closed it. It was a proven fact that B served more troops although it was much smaller but it did then troop A did. Also our council president had other ideas and solutions to keep B but the board turned them all down. She uis the only person who was lookiing out for us the volunteers.

Point A is about an hour away while point B was about 20 mins. away. So now there doing "free shipping" onl once a month but the council right next to us is only about 25 mins. away from where we are at so now we will be using the other council's service center.

Before we found out about the million dollar defict the summer camp was going through huge changes (sewer system and new trading posts and other various things) we were all under the assumption that it was being payed for by grants. Apprently it wasn't and a lot of people voiced their opinions about it. Its also been known now that the council exceutive board that makes these changes are near or live by point A and work for a bank. It also seems like all council events now are only at point A anymore also.

My dad would like all of your corny jokes.

^^^^Agrees with what bob said.

I'd follow the Atkins Diet. Bascally eat low carb foods for the most time but when hiking and stuf flike others said make sure you got something surgary. It would help if you did see a diabetic specialist so you are aware of what and what not to eat.

This doesn't have to do with the eagle award but it does have to do with medals. I was wondering if I as an adult can weary my youth religious award knot on speical occassions. You can wear your knot all the time but i wasn't sure on the medal.