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Even though I eventually found the information myself, I didn't know that I would, but I knew I could depend on you guys to come through. Thanks again for helping.

SCTMOM, thanks for the quick post. I had just returned here myself to say "never mind" as I found this link; http://www.usscouts.org/advance/cubscout/sports/fitness.html with full details. Wish I had found this a month ago. Crossover to Scouts is March first for us, so I will see if the boy wants to get to work. Thanks again.

By the way, if someone could post the beltloop requirements it would be helpful. (or point to a web page with them) Just incase

I need the help of this forum to understand a situation as soon as possible. I know you are up to it. If I had the Cub Scout Academics and Sports Program Guide I could probably answer this one myself. I turned in a list of items my son earned to the advancement coordinator. She emailed me back questioning one of them. I told her that son had earned the Webelos Athlete badge and consequently the Cub Scouts Sports pin for physical fitness, as earning this pin is requirement number 2 on as shown on page 63. We reviewed the information about the pin on page 46 of the book, then went

SLONTWOVVY: I feel your pain! In a past Cub Scout pack there were four families (mine being one of them) that did everything for the other 40 families. We planned it, brought the equipment, set it up, directed it, cleaned it up. We would ask for help and get none. On campouts parents would drive up Sunday morning, Junior would hop in the car and away they went; we cleaned out his tent, and packed it. After three years we had enough and went to a new pack where 10 families did the work for 60. My point: Seems that the majority of families in any organization are inconsiderate and/or

My understanding is that a merit badge card or rank card signed by the appropriate people is full and valid proof of having earned the award to anyone inquiring, including units you transfer to, districts, councils, and national. This is why I have always stressed keeping these cards safely. (Use photocopies in your eagle notebook.) Is this not correct?

For those of you able to learn from others experiences... This serves as a reminder, keep those little cards that merit and rank badges are attached to in a safe place.

The Boy Scouts of America Natinal Office 1329 W. Walnut Hill Lane Irving, TX 75038 972-580-2597 My impression is that record keeping is notoriously bad from the top to the bottom. You might be just as well off to track down your old Scoutmaster. Good Luck

OK, I cant resist putting in my $ .02 on this. Regarding the jet skis, snowboarding, dirt bikes, etc., I suspect that few of the boys who question this actually have the equipment or participate in these activities anyway. Sounds like the grass is greener syndrome to me. Now, what we do offer: Hiking, Backpacking, Camping, Swimming, canoeing, rafting, Summer camp, high-adventure bases, Rifles, shotguns, archery ranges, Pioneering, cope courses, Major event campouts, Jambos, patrol competitions, Some interesting merit badges, And more. Now, seems to me there is plent

ASM1; why not ask the rest of the question that you alluded to? Is the question regarding boys playing games of any kind that they provide themselves; or is the question about playing morally questionable games. I am aware that some people prefer that boys not play (in the past Dungeons & Dragons) Harry Potter related games due to the sorcery aspect, or more recently the Yu-Gi-Oh! games. I suspect there are those who are very conservative that would reject regular playing cards. Posters here might be more specific in their responses if we knew exactly what the question is. I a

EAGLEDAD, thanks for your input on this topic. I appreciate the angle you take on this, and believe you are quite correct. You state, "(we) should ask, "what values will the boy gain from wearing the full uniform and how can I teach him those values". (excellent I think) Further you state, "I suggest before we discuss how to encourage boys to wear full uniforms, we first discuss why that is so important." (yes!) Finally you also state, "Uniform is one of eight methods the scouts use to develop character and integrity." (A statement that means little to the boys I suspect.) OK, I

SCOUTLDR's example only brought it to my mind again. I am speaking of all scouts (Wolf, Webelos, Tenderfoot, Eagle, etc.) I think most Scouts will follow the norm. If no Scout wears uniform pants then another Scout will not want to wear his. Yes, I think it starts with Leaders, first by example, then by expectation for the boys. The problem is when it has been done one way for so long. (Kind of like you hear leaders saying, "We're going to try the 'patrol method,' but it will be difficult because it has never been done that way in the past.")

In another thread SCOUTLDR said, . . . we have a bigger challenge. The uniforming of the youth, supposedly our "cream of the crop", was atrocious. One particular example...a 17 year old Eagle Scout Vigil who looked like he was coming off a week-long bender. The day was 40 degrees with a stiff wind. ALL he was wearing was a wrinkled Venture shirt, a pair of blue jeans shorts, and flip-flops. I frequently share SCOUTLDRs frustration and disappointment. My question is HOW DO WE ENCOURAGE BOYS TO WEAR THE FULL UNIFORM WITH PRIDE? I am speaking of boys who own the entire uniform I want t

SCOUTLDR: I sympathize with your frustration over scouts who have little desire to wear the full uniform (when they own it), and to do so with pride. It is however off-topic for this thread, but worthy of discussion. I am going to start a new thread called "HOW TO GET BOYS TO WEAR THE FULL UNIFORM WITH PRIDE." I hope we will have your input there along with other leaders!

TCD: Thanks for the Insignia Guide quote. I think I may have that embrodieried on a patch and place it in the temporary patch position! As for the rest of the banter; I did ACTUALLY laugh out loud. Thanks for the chuckle!

Our district has a name patch that is being worn (by adult leaders only) below the flag on right sleeve. Of course the inspection sheet mentions nothing about this patch or its placement. I have never seen any other district with such a patch. Is this a "legal" patch for wear? If not, how might I prove that? Is there a quote in the insignia guide that says, "no patches allowed anywhere, other than temporary ones on right pocket, unless so noted in this guide."?

Just above the first post is an underlined link in small green print that says "monitor this thread by email." By clicking that you can do the same thing without creating a post.

Ghosthost: Hope this is not too late. A good starting place would be the "Staging Den & Pack Ceremonies" book available at your local scout shop or by mail order by calling 1-800-323-0732. You can view all the literature available online at http://www.scoutstuff.org/ For more online ideas visit http://www.macscouter.com/Ceremony/index.html or, http://www.scouter.com/compass/Meeting_Activities/Ceremonies/ or, visit a search engine (www.altavista.com) and type "den ceremonies" in the search window. Hope this helps.

Oh, Bob is back! Bob, tell us, where have you been? Holiday, hospital, or just taking a break from the Internet? Welcome back.

Benny: Yaworski is correct, retire the flag with dignity, preferably by fire, and the rest is pomp no matter what anyone else tells you. Pretty good article on this at http://members.aol.com/StanDCmr/flagret.html, titled "Flag Retirement Ceremonies, Which is Really the Correct Way?" Do note that a flag retired by fire is permanent, as opposed to a burial for instance. Regarding grommets, it has been suggested that the flag be retired by fire until it is no longer recognizable as a former flag. The grommets in a fire pit is the only recognizable portion, thus, most people remove th

I hope someone can provide you an excellent recommendation. I don't have a specific trail recommendation for you but do suggest this if needed. You could contact the State Conservation department or State Parks Department of each state and ask for a listing of trails. Chances are good that these states already provide this information on line. All state parks: http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/admin/hot/stdepts.htm

I also like EagleDads suggestion about making this a TROOP event! That way the boys who are retiring from Scouting dont feel like they have been left out of a PACK event. Having this as a separate event (not part of the Blue and Gold dinner for instance) would help a lot.

Ok, I cant resist putting in my two cents on this topic. First, the highest award you can receive as a CUB SCOUT is the Arrow of Light. That being said, if you do not choose to join a BOY SCOUT troop, then you have reached the pinnacle. SOME districts or councils have an additional award sometimes called the 20 Patch, or Super Webelos, or Super Achiever. This is awarded to boys who earn all 20 Webelos pins. I agree with many other posters here that an AOL ceremony should be a separate and substantial ceremony recognizing those scouts who have earned CUB SCOUTINGS highest award.

Thank you for your suggestions. I just received these suggestions from a Scouter that I respect: Check to see how effective the Methods are in the troop. 1) Advancement; how are the advancement opportunities in the troop? Are they fun, challenging, and re-enforced in the troop program? 2) Ideals; are the Scout Oath, Law, Motto, Slogan and Outdoor Code are part of every meeting? Can the Scouts repeat from memory and are they demonstrating it in their activities. 3) Patrols; are the patrols Scout lead and Adult advised? Is Junior Leader training part of the annual troop calendar? Does the

We have been in Cub Scouting since tigers. Now that we are finishing up the Webelos 2 year we have just moved to a new state. We are getting very close to the time that we have to select a troop that we will join. When we first got here, we visited three of the troops in the area. We got some first impressions right away based on their reception of us, how many boys in attendance, how many adults in uniform, and what percentage of the troop meeting was boy-lead. I liked the idea that our visits were usually last minute things... so these were not "special" troop meetings for visiting dens of